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Date: 29 Jun 2007 06:00:29
From: samsloan
Subject: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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WHITE TO PLAY AND WIN by Weaver W. Adams plus SIMPLE CHESS by Weaver W. Adams Revised and combined in 2007 with pictures and 34 games added and introductions by Dr. Leroy W. Dubeck and Sam Sloan When "White to Play and Win" was first published in 1939, it created a great sensation because the author, Weaver W. Adams, claimed to be able to prove that White has a win by force from the very first move, against any defense. Although the author was never able to prove his central thesis, he did prove that these lines were lethal against the average tournament player. Over the next ten years, playing exactly the opening lines in this book, Adams won every City of Boston Championship, every Massachusetts State Championship and every New England Championship, usually winning every game without a loss or a draw. Adams won the US Open Championship, played in five US Championships, and was sent to Moscow as an alternate member of the US Team playing against the USSR, always playing exactly the opening lines in this book. Bobby Fischer studied this book intently and used many of the attacking lines in this book on his way to winning the World Championship. This book provides ways to attack against every major opening system, the Sicilian Defense, the French Defense, the Caro-Kann Defense and so on. There is also a "Black to Play and Win" Section on how to counter- attack against the major openings by White. This book and the follow-up work "Simple Chess" have been combined together under one cover plus 34 chess games have been added showing how Adams defeated such famous players as Kashdan, Steiner, Horowitz, Evans, Santasiere, Pavey, Bernstein, Kramer, Shainswit and Seidman, even though he told them in advance that he was going to play the exact opening lines in these books. ISBN 0-923891-83-8 Reprinted by Ishi Press International
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Date: 22 Jul 2007 05:04:43
From: samsloan
Subject: My wife will do anything for money
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 17:38:53
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 21, 7:50 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote: > On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, Paul Rubin <http://[email protected]> wrote: > > > samsloan <[email protected]> writes: > > > When "White to Play and Win" was first published in 1939, it created > > > a great sensation because the author, Weaver W. Adams, claimed to be > > > able to prove that White has a win by force from the very first > > > move, against any defense.... Over the next ten years, playing > > > exactly the opening lines in this book, Adams won every City of > > > Boston Championship, every Massachusetts State Championship and > > > every New England Championship, usually winning every game without a > > > loss or a draw. > > > If that system really worked, then Adams would have won every game he > > played as White and lost every game he played as Black. > > Okay, now that I have replayed more than just the one > game WA won against Larry Evans, I will say that his > openings seemed to be a serious problem for him. > > In a game against Sammy Reshevsky, the grandmaster > effortlessly seized the upper hand as Black, by simply > exploiting the obvious loss of time which the move Bd3 > entails. The opening went something like: > > 1.e4 e6 > 2.d4 d5 > 3.Nc3 Bb4 > 4.Bd3 dxe > 5.Bxe4 Nf6 > > GM Reshevsky played very well and won easily. > > If I'm not mistaken, this is the problem to which > GM Fine referred, and he basically repeated (or > maybe GM Reshevsky did the repeating) the same > line to exploit an obvious weakness in WA's > repertoire for White. > > That's just one line in one opening, so maybe his > other ideas were better. > > -- help bot No. It was a game in the Albin Counter Gambit where Fine wrote that he won the game by finding a weakness in the analysis published by Weaver Adams. Incidentally, I could be mistaken but it seems to me that a lot of the Adams games in chessgames.com were recently added after I announced that my book was coming out. Almost none of the games in my book are on chessgames.com and visa-versa. Sam Sloan
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 17:23:45
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 21, 12:39 pm, [email protected] wrote: > In the US Open Dallas (1940 or 1942), Adams won 4 games with Black and > went 1 draw and 3 losses with White. Right. This fact is also mentioned two times in my reprint of Adams' book. It was in 1940, right after the book first came out. Adams' results improved greatly later on, however. Sam Sloan
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 09:39:24
From:
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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In the US Open Dallas (1940 or 1942), Adams won 4 games with Black and went 1 draw and 3 losses with White.
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 16:25:34
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 21, 10:36 am, chiffres <[email protected] > wrote: > In article <[email protected]>, EZoto > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > To me Weaver W. Adams had the same attitude as Vince Lombardi. That > > will give you an idea as to why he was successful. Even on the > > Football field Lombardi had few plays in football. The other team > > knew them but stopping them was a different matter. > > > EZoto > > I want to buy a copy of the book but an email to the ishi press has > been fruitless. Does anyone know the price and the address to contact? > > Chiffres To which address did you write? If you wrote to the Fake Ishi Press in California they went out of business a few years ago and they never had anything to do with Ishi Press books. They just sold go stones and boards. If you want an Ishi Press book write to me at [email protected] Sam Sloan
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 04:50:39
From: help bot
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 20, 8:55 pm, Paul Rubin <http://[email protected] > wrote: > samsloan <[email protected]> writes: > > When "White to Play and Win" was first published in 1939, it created > > a great sensation because the author, Weaver W. Adams, claimed to be > > able to prove that White has a win by force from the very first > > move, against any defense.... Over the next ten years, playing > > exactly the opening lines in this book, Adams won every City of > > Boston Championship, every Massachusetts State Championship and > > every New England Championship, usually winning every game without a > > loss or a draw. > > If that system really worked, then Adams would have won every game he > played as White and lost every game he played as Black. Okay, now that I have replayed more than just the one game WA won against Larry Evans, I will say that his openings seemed to be a serious problem for him. In a game against Sammy Reshevsky, the grandmaster effortlessly seized the upper hand as Black, by simply exploiting the obvious loss of time which the move Bd3 entails. The opening went something like: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.Bd3 dxe 5.Bxe4 Nf6 GM Reshevsky played very well and won easily. If I'm not mistaken, this is the problem to which GM Fine referred, and he basically repeated (or maybe GM Reshevsky did the repeating) the same line to exploit an obvious weakness in WA's repertoire for White. That's just one line in one opening, so maybe his other ideas were better. -- help bot
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 17:55:50
From: Paul Rubin
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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samsloan <[email protected] > writes: > When "White to Play and Win" was first published in 1939, it created > a great sensation because the author, Weaver W. Adams, claimed to be > able to prove that White has a win by force from the very first > move, against any defense.... Over the next ten years, playing > exactly the opening lines in this book, Adams won every City of > Boston Championship, every Massachusetts State Championship and > every New England Championship, usually winning every game without a > loss or a draw. If that system really worked, then Adams would have won every game he played as White and lost every game he played as Black.
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 12:33:39
From: help bot
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 20, 2:00 pm, SBD <[email protected] > wrote: > > The great thing about this book is that Adams gives a line to play > > against the Sicilian Defense, a line to play against the Caro-Kann > > Defense, a line to play against the Alekhine's Defense and so on. > > Thus, you do not have to go out and buy MCO, ECO, BCO and the rest of > > the alphabet plus an openings monograph by Schiller on every > > variation. You have it all in just one medium sized book, plus he even > > tells you how to win with black in case white dares to not play the > > openings he recommends. > > And this analysis is only what, sixty years out of date? > > This does not detract from the fact that the book may be of > considerable interest... but to recommend it as a repertoire book > seems rather ridiculous (as is the recommendation to buy an opening > monograph by Schiller, but that's another story). Sam, if you can't > represent things for what they are, what hope do we have of you ever > performing effectively on the board... wait a minute.... Somewhere out there... there must be a real book review which gives a more objective assessment of this classic. I've never seen it, but the name Weaver Adams rings familiar. (I mean the original book, not SS's new and improved version, with added materials.) -- help bot
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 12:28:07
From: help bot
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 20, 1:23 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > Thank you. I really do appreciate your comments but you miss the main > point. > > The main point is that Weaver W. Adams beat everybody below master > just about 100% of the time and often beat grandmasters as well > playing exactly the openings in his book "White to Play and Win", yet > he was not a grandmaster himself. > > In other words, he beat players better than himself by playing the > openings in this book. Rrright. So you are suggesting that these openings were so good that THEY beat almost everybody, despite WA being less than a great player. Once again, this reminds me of IM Innes' stuff. Let me just take the one game I recently replayed as a handy example: Larry Evans, having White, played a bad move or two and Weaver Adams exploited this to the max. There was nothing unusual here, except that, as I have said, the line was one of those types of openings which many humans don't play well (and LE was no exception). The reason I don't accept your claim that WA beat virtually everyone below master level is this: the games at chessgames.com tell a very different story from the one you tell; look at the names -- unknown players won or lost almost at random, while the best of the bunch defeated WA consistently. This seems to suggest that his openings, however effective against weak players, were not good enough to even come close to your hype. Now, maybe I'm wrong; maybe everything you say is correct, and it is mere coincidence that when I looked at the actual games, there were quite a number of unexpected-per-your-hype losses. Maybe... . > This means that this is a good book. Okay, but I still don't believe all the hype about WA beating everybody in sight (but somehow his many losses escaped your memory). > The great thing about this book is that Adams gives a line to play > against the Sicilian Defense, a line to play against the Caro-Kann > Defense, a line to play against the Alekhine's Defense and so on. Most books that old are of far less use now than they were back then; this is because many assessments change kedly over time, right along with the relative popularity of various openings. Believe it or not, old time grandmasters would sometimes spend years testing out lousy variations, before finally settling for something a bit better. (You realize this when, after a game at say, 30/30 time control where you came out with a tough position, you go home and look up your game only to find that you had "improved" on a titled idiot's choice in some FIDE tournament at 3 minutes per move!) > Thus, you do not have to go out and buy MCO, ECO, BCO and the rest of > the alphabet plus an openings monograph by Schiller on every > variation. You have it all in just one medium sized book, plus he even > tells you how to win with black in case white dares to not play the > openings he recommends. There are a lot of such books around these days. Some even purport to show you how to win as Black -- as if...! One thing which pops into mind is the fact that BF had a lot of trouble in 1962 against the Russians due to his openings repertoire; as White, GM Fischer allowed easy equality; I'm wondering if this was the WA repertoire, or if he had already switched by then. My guess is that this book may be interesting for historical purposes, and even for an opening repertoire which is so outmoded that few will know how to handle the recommended lines, just as Larry Evans didn't. -- help bot
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 11:00:23
From: SBD
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 20, 12:23 pm, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > > In other words, he beat players better than himself by playing the > openings in this book. > > This means that this is a good book. Ah, yes, the logic of a brilliant mind. Wilt Chamberlain is a man, WC is 7 feet tall, therefore, all men are seven feet tall. > > The great thing about this book is that Adams gives a line to play > against the Sicilian Defense, a line to play against the Caro-Kann > Defense, a line to play against the Alekhine's Defense and so on. > Thus, you do not have to go out and buy MCO, ECO, BCO and the rest of > the alphabet plus an openings monograph by Schiller on every > variation. You have it all in just one medium sized book, plus he even > tells you how to win with black in case white dares to not play the > openings he recommends. And this analysis is only what, sixty years out of date? This does not detract from the fact that the book may be of considerable interest... but to recommend it as a repertoire book seems rather ridiculous (as is the recommendation to buy an opening monograph by Schiller, but that's another story). Sam, if you can't represent things for what they are, what hope do we have of you ever performing effectively on the board... wait a minute....
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 10:23:02
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 20, 11:44 am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote: > Yes, but plenty of other players, far weaker than > GM Fine, have beaten Mr. Adams. His games are > listed at chessgames.com, so this is easy to check. > > > Later, Bobby Fischer, who had studied "White to Play and Win", adopted > > many of Adams' opening ideas and used them on the way to winning the > > World Championship. > > I think this is probably why the book sounds so > familiar. > > Obviously, Weaver Adams knocked off a long list > of names, including some grandmasters; but taken > as a whole, his record at chessgames.com does > not impress all that much. Look at how GMs Fine > and Reshevsky, among others, repeatedly beat > him. And even A. Santasiere bested him by a wide > gin (I don't know, but I don't think he was a GM). > > Your claim that he won virtually every game and > tournament in a certain region reminds me of IM > Innes' stuff; there is no way to verify if this is true or > not, so I prefer to look at the (very real) record at > chessgames.com. Anybody can toss out unverifiable > claims like those; my guess is that somewhere out > there, sits one fellow who in fact beat WA in one of > those many tournaments, but he is too old and > feeble now to type. :>D > > -- help bot Thank you. I really do appreciate your comments but you miss the main point. The main point is that Weaver W. Adams beat everybody below master just about 100% of the time and often beat grandmasters as well playing exactly the openings in his book "White to Play and Win", yet he was not a grandmaster himself. In other words, he beat players better than himself by playing the openings in this book. This means that this is a good book. The great thing about this book is that Adams gives a line to play against the Sicilian Defense, a line to play against the Caro-Kann Defense, a line to play against the Alekhine's Defense and so on. Thus, you do not have to go out and buy MCO, ECO, BCO and the rest of the alphabet plus an openings monograph by Schiller on every variation. You have it all in just one medium sized book, plus he even tells you how to win with black in case white dares to not play the openings he recommends. Sam Sloan
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 08:44:58
From: help bot
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jul 20, 8:22 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > I do not claim that Weaver W. Adams beat "all comers". Yeah, I noticed that your list of players he beat did not include any of the foreign grandmasters. But you did claim he "won every City of Boston Championship, every Massachusetts State Championship and every New England Championship, usually winning every game without a loss or a draw". And you listed none of his *many* losses, even when giving a list of famous players he beat. And your wording seemed to be straining to not admit that he lost any games; your choice of "was never able to defeat" for instance, in place of "lost to repeatedly". : >D > He played in > five US Championships and finished with a minus score over-all. > However, against players below the master level, he wiped them out, > winning every game. In a ten year period from 1939 to 1949, he won > every City of Boston Championship, every Massachusetts State > Championship and every New England Championship, usually with a > perfect score without a single loss or draw. Okay, but then, what sort of opposition did he face? I pulled up all his games which are recorded at chessgames.com, and he had many losses and wins, and many were against no-name players I didn't recognize. Even the one game I decided to look over had Larry Evans playing very poorly (for example, his Nxe5 was obviously a dud), although in this game WA also played very well. > More than that, he would actually show this book to his opponents > before the games and tell them that he was going to play the exact > moves in this book. Even conceding this huge advantage, he would win > every game. I'm not sure it is such a "huge advantage"; as I said before, he seemed to be playing lines where humans have a lot of trouble playing well; Larry Evans even fell apart once taken out of book early, in effect, putting up no resistance. > In his sweep of the 1948 US Open, he beat tin Starke, beat Anthony > Santasiere And about time! LOL > drew Isaac Kashdan, beat Arial Mengarini, beat Max Pavey, > beat George Kramer and drew Olaf Ulvestad in the last round when that > guaranteed him first prize. All of those players were masters. This > was clearly a grandmaster result. Perhaps, but it was just one result. Look over his games against A. Santasiere, and you will see that he normally *lost*; what sort of "grandmaster" would do that? > My book is not a mere reprint of Adams original book. The original > book is 167 pages. My reprint is 252 pages. I have added in the > introduction games and diagrams where Adams defeated Kashdan, Steiner, > Rossetto, Horowitz, Evans, Santasiere, Pavey, Bernstein, Kramer, > Shainswit, Seidman and a host of others. Yes, and you threw in another book as well, as mentioned in the subtitle. > Adams also had a winning position against Reshevsky Uh-oh, here we go. Gaining a winning position *but then failing to win it* is supposed to be evidence of greatness? IMO, certain players like SR and LE simply played the opening poorly at times, getting bad positions. If you look at the tournament where GM Reshevsky played all the top Russians, he had plenty of losing positions, but fought his way back! This merely demonstrates that those players had serious weaknesses, too. > in Hollywood 1945 > but incredibly started a king side attack when he should have > concentrated on queening a pawn. Again, this is supposed to show greatness? > The only top players he was never able to defeat were Reshevsky and > Fine. He had a winning position against Reshevsky in Hollywood, 1945 > but could not convert. Fine admitted in his article in the May 1944 > issue of Chess Review that the reason he was able to defeat Adams was > that he had studied the book, "White to Play" and Win, and had found a > weakness in the analysis. Yes, but plenty of other players, far weaker than GM Fine, have beaten Mr. Adams. His games are listed at chessgames.com, so this is easy to check. > Later, Bobby Fischer, who had studied "White to Play and Win", adopted > many of Adams' opening ideas and used them on the way to winning the > World Championship. I think this is probably why the book sounds so familiar. Obviously, Weaver Adams knocked off a long list of names, including some grandmasters; but taken as a whole, his record at chessgames.com does not impress all that much. Look at how GMs Fine and Reshevsky, among others, repeatedly beat him. And even A. Santasiere bested him by a wide gin (I don't know, but I don't think he was a GM). Your claim that he won virtually every game and tournament in a certain region reminds me of IM Innes' stuff; there is no way to verify if this is true or not, so I prefer to look at the (very real) record at chessgames.com. Anybody can toss out unverifiable claims like those; my guess is that somewhere out there, sits one fellow who in fact beat WA in one of those many tournaments, but he is too old and feeble now to type. : >D -- help bot
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 05:22:14
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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I do not claim that Weaver W. Adams beat "all comers". He played in five US Championships and finished with a minus score over-all. However, against players below the master level, he wiped them out, winning every game. In a ten year period from 1939 to 1949, he won every City of Boston Championship, every Massachusetts State Championship and every New England Championship, usually with a perfect score without a single loss or draw. More than that, he would actually show this book to his opponents before the games and tell them that he was going to play the exact moves in this book. Even conceding this huge advantage, he would win every game. In his sweep of the 1948 US Open, he beat tin Starke, beat Anthony Santasiere, drew Isaac Kashdan, beat Arial Mengarini, beat Max Pavey, beat George Kramer and drew Olaf Ulvestad in the last round when that guaranteed him first prize. All of those players were masters. This was clearly a grandmaster result. My book is not a mere reprint of Adams original book. The original book is 167 pages. My reprint is 252 pages. I have added in the introduction games and diagrams where Adams defeated Kashdan, Steiner, Rossetto, Horowitz, Evans, Santasiere, Pavey, Bernstein, Kramer, Shainswit, Seidman and a host of others. Adams also had a winning position against Reshevsky in Hollywood 1945 but incredibly started a king side attack when he should have concentrated on queening a pawn. The only top players he was never able to defeat were Reshevsky and Fine. He had a winning position against Reshevsky in Hollywood, 1945 but could not convert. Fine admitted in his article in the May 1944 issue of Chess Review that the reason he was able to defeat Adams was that he had studied the book, "White to Play" and Win, and had found a weakness in the analysis. Later, Bobby Fischer, who had studied "White to Play and Win", adopted many of Adams' opening ideas and used them on the way to winning the World Championship. Sam Sloan
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Date: 20 Jul 2007 03:56:50
From: help bot
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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On Jun 29, 9:00 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > WHITE TO PLAY AND WIN by Weaver W. Adams > plus SIMPLE CHESS by Weaver W. Adams > > Revised and combined in 2007 with pictures and 34 games added and > introductions by Dr. Leroy W. Dubeck and Sam Sloan > > When "White to Play and Win" was first published in 1939, it created a > great sensation because the author, Weaver W. Adams, claimed to be > able to prove that White has a win by force from the very first move, > against any defense. > > Although the author was never able to prove his central thesis, he did > prove that these lines were lethal against the average tournament > player. Over the next ten years, playing exactly the opening lines in > this book, Adams won every City of Boston Championship, every > Massachusetts State Championship and every New England Championship, > usually winning every game without a loss or a draw. > > Adams won the US Open Championship, played in five US Championships, > and was sent to Moscow as an alternate member of the US Team playing > against the USSR, always playing exactly the opening lines in this > book. > > Bobby Fischer studied this book intently and used many of the > attacking lines in this book on his way to winning the World > Championship. > > This book provides ways to attack against every major opening system, > the Sicilian Defense, the French Defense, the Caro-Kann Defense and so > on. There is also a "Black to Play and Win" Section on how to counter- > attack against the major openings by White. > This book and the follow-up work "Simple Chess" have been combined > together under one cover plus 34 chess games have been added showing > how Adams defeated such famous players as Kashdan, Steiner, Horowitz, > Evans, Santasiere, Pavey, Bernstein, Kramer, Shainswit and Seidman, > even though he told them in advance that he was going to play the > exact opening lines in these books. This may well be a decent book, but this description is a bit off the k. Far from routinely beating all comers despite them knowing in advance precisely what lines he would play, Weaver Adams in fact lost routinely to players like GM Reshevsky, GM Fine, H. Lyman, and often to Santasiere. His system, then, was far from infallible. This leaves me wondering just how much of the hype is due to his preposterous claim -- one which is reminiscent of Bobby Fischer's famous "bust" to the King's Gambit. I replayed W. Adams' game against Larry Evans, and it seemed to me that he was one of those guys who had a "difficult" repertoire -- not unlike the old Novag Constellation, whose programmers were accused of deliberately stacking the deck by careful selection of tricky lines which humans are known to play poorly (instead of grooming their program to play chess very well). So, what's the verdict on the actual lines he recommended -- any good? -- help bot
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Date: 19 Jul 2007 17:29:19
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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"White to Play and Win" is now out and is available on Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0923891838 On Jun 29, 9:00 am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote: > WHITE TO PLAY AND WIN byWeaverW.Adams > plus SIMPLE CHESS byWeaverW.Adams > > Revised and combined in 2007 with pictures and 34 games added and > introductions by Dr. Leroy W. Dubeck and Sam Sloan > > When "White to Play and Win" was first published in 1939, it created a > great sensation because the author,WeaverW.Adams, claimed to be > able to prove that White has a win by force from the very first move, > against any defense. > > Although the author was never able to prove his central thesis, he did > prove that these lines were lethal against the average tournament > player. Over the next ten years, playing exactly the opening lines in > this book,Adamswon every City of Boston Championship, every > Massachusetts State Championship and every New England Championship, > usually winning every game without a loss or a draw. > > Adamswon the US Open Championship, played in five US Championships, > and was sent to Moscow as an alternate member of the US Team playing > against the USSR, always playing exactly the opening lines in this > book. > > Bobby Fischer studied this book intently and used many of the > attacking lines in this book on his way to winning the World > Championship. > > This book provides ways to attack against every major opening system, > the Sicilian Defense, the French Defense, the Caro-Kann Defense and so > on. There is also a "Black to Play and Win" Section on how to counter- > attack against the major openings by White. > This book and the follow-up work "Simple Chess" have been combined > together under one cover plus 34 chess games have been added showing > howAdamsdefeated such famous players as Kashdan, Steiner, Horowitz, > Evans, Santasiere, Pavey, Bernstein, Kramer, Shainswit and Seidman, > even though he told them in advance that he was going to play the > exact opening lines in these books. > > ISBN 0-923891-83-8 > > Reprinted by Ishi Press International
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Date: 29 Jun 2007 13:46:08
From: EZoto
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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To me Weaver W. Adams had the same attitude as Vince Lombardi. That will give you an idea as to why he was successful. Even on the Football field Lombardi had few plays in football. The other team knew them but stopping them was a different matter. EZoto
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Date: 21 Jul 2007 10:36:04
From: chiffres
Subject: Re: New Reprinted Book: "White to Play and Win"
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In article <[email protected] >, EZoto <[email protected] > wrote: > To me Weaver W. Adams had the same attitude as Vince Lombardi. That > will give you an idea as to why he was successful. Even on the > Football field Lombardi had few plays in football. The other team > knew them but stopping them was a different matter. > > EZoto I want to buy a copy of the book but an email to the ishi press has been fruitless. Does anyone know the price and the address to contact? Chiffres
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