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Date: 19 Dec 2008 10:30:43
From: samsloan
Subject: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=0923891498
This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
and difficult concepts.
Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
concepts."
Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more than
a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
ISBN 0-923891-49-8
This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 31 Dec 2008 23:51:32
From: help bot
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 31 2008, 6:52=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> > =A0 This particular book could use an algebraic
> > conversion, along with a few notes to point out
> > where Mr. Alekhine "improved" on his actual
> > play. =A0The Dover edition I had was inexpensive
> > and compact, but most people seem to like
> > a book which can lie open flat, with good-sized
> > text and diagrams.
>
> > =A0 I will admit that a correct conversion from
> > descriptive to algebraic notation might be
> > beyond the capabilities of a Sam Sloan or a
> > Rob Mitchell, but for some of us, this would
> > be no problem whatever.
> If you are referring to the "Five Queens Game" which some say was an
> invented game, I specifically discuss this question in my introduction
> to this book.
It is odd that Mr. Sloan seems unfamiliar with
a number of other "improvements" in the same
vein. No, I wasn't refering to any particular,
single offense, but rather to the general issue
of Mr. Alekhine routinely reporting moves that
were not actually played.
> As far as me trying to "improve" on the notes by Alekhine [??!] or showin=
g
> where he made mistakes in analysis, all of the games in this book have
> been computer analyzed and posted on the Internet. That is not the
> value of this book.
Thank god. I never thought that any of the
nutters here in rgc were qualified to improve
on Mr. Alekhine's analysis.
> The value of this book is in his explanations for the reasons behind
> the moves, not the moves themselves. The greatest players in Chess
> History, players greater than Alekhine who would have beaten him if he
> were still alive, players like Bobby Fischer and Garry Kasparov, have
> written about how much they learned from this book.
Now that Mr. Fischer is dead, I think they
should be considered equal; /dead/ equal.
As for Mr. Kasparov, we have no way of
knowing how he would perform if he were
able to travel back in time, without Mama K.
We do know that he cheats, and this could
give him a decisive edge against players
who are handicapped by moral scruples.
> Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
> was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
I personally found the Dover edition to be
rather plain looking.
> World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
> luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
> on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
Well, he was proved wrong. Mr. Alekhine was
in large part a classical player, while the future
belongs to the hyper, hyper, hypermoderns, who
will play much like Fritz. In fact, somebody
recently accused Mr. Anand of doing just that!
> Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
> in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> concepts."
I think Mr. Fischer may not have been aware
of the way in which Mr. Alekhine "improved" on
his actual play. Some of these grand
concepts were, after all, the result of post-
mortem analysis, etc. You would not believe
the awesome grand concepts I have found in
my own games, after the fact and by changing
just a few moves, here and there.
One of my earlier complaints, so to speak,
was that instead of merely scanning an old
book and pressing the print key, an update
seems in order. The whole world now uses
algebraic notation, not descriptive. And as
far as I can recall, the old Dover edition did
not inform readers where Mr. Alekhine
simply invented moves he never played.
In any case, there are numerous spelling
corrections and wrong dates and other
such things which could easily be corrected
by a decent editor. Doing this for a useless
old book like BCE would be a waste of time,
but I expect it should be worthwhile for such
a fine piece of work as this one.
-- help bot
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Date: 31 Dec 2008 22:33:13
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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Believe it or not, this book is now available in India !!!
http://www.flipkart.com/my-best-games-chess-1908/0923891498-lax3ffzolc
This is a good chance for Sanny to learn how to play chess.
For only 1126 rupees you can buy this book at your local Hindi
bookstore!
How much does that translate into real money, Sanny?
You also get to read the introductions by Sam Sloan and Jerry Hanken.
Haji Ismail Sloan
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Date: 31 Dec 2008 03:52:35
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 31, 6:16=A0am, help bot <[email protected] > wrote:
> =A0 I figure it's either laziness or else some legal
> problem with this mere "scanning" of out-of-
> date books by Mr. Sloan.
>
> =A0 This particular book could use an algebraic
> conversion, along with a few notes to point out
> where Mr. Alekhine "improved" on his actual
> play. =A0The Dover edition I had was inexpensive
> and compact, but most people seem to like
> a book which can lie open flat, with good-sized
> text and diagrams.
>
> =A0 I will admit that a correct conversion from
> descriptive to algebraic notation might be
> beyond the capabilities of a Sam Sloan or a
> Rob Mitchell, but for some of us, this would
> be no problem whatever.
>
> =A0 -- help bot
If you are referring to the "Five Queens Game" which some say was an
invented game, I specifically discuss this question in my introduction
to this book.
http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=3D092389149=
8
As far as me trying to "improve" on the notes by Alekhine or showing
where he made mistakes in analysis, all of the games in this book have
been computer analyzed and posted on the Internet. That is not the
value of this book.
The value of this book is in his explanations for the reasons behind
the moves, not the moves themselves. The greatest players in Chess
History, players greater than Alekhine who would have beaten him if he
were still alive, players like Bobby Fischer and Garry Kasparov, have
written about how much they learned from this book.
Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
concepts."
Sam Sloan
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Date: 31 Dec 2008 03:16:15
From: help bot
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 20, 6:07=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> > Too bad it is not in algebraic.This is my favorite book.When I study
> > it my tactical game improves greatly.There is an earlier post on who
> > would win an Anand-Alekhine Match. At the top of his game Alekhine
> > would have been favored against almost anybody.He beat the great
> > Capablanca !!With today's modern methods and Alekhine's love for the
> > game I am sure he would have been able to compete in the modern game
> > that has evolved
>
> A point which should be made is that any attempt to convert a book
> from descriptive to algebraic notation carries the risk of typos. Make
> no mistake, there are typos in every book.
>
> The most infamous typo ever in a chess book was made by Grandmaster
> John Nunn when he converted "My 60 Memorable Games" to algebraic.
> Grandmaster Nunn also added a few notes of his own and in so doing
> included an illegal move in his analysis. Nunn wrote that a certain
> move would have been better than the move that Bobby Fischer played,
> but Nunn was wrong. The move that Bobby played had been the best move.
> The line Nunn recommended had included an illegal move to work!
>
> Bobby spotted the error (I think he was the first to point it out) and
> eventually filed suit to stop the printing of the Nunn revision. This
> explains the fact that "My 60 Memorable Games" was never otherwise
> converted to algebraic while Bobby was alive.
>
> Now that Bobby Fischer is no longer alive, the same company that
> brought out the botched revision of "My 60 Memorable Games" has
> brought it out again just three weeks ago. They swear that this time
> all typographical errors have been removed. Whether they have the
> right to reprint Bobby's book remains unclear. We will have to wait
> and see.
I figure it's either laziness or else some legal
problem with this mere "scanning" of out-of-
date books by Mr. Sloan.
This particular book could use an algebraic
conversion, along with a few notes to point out
where Mr. Alekhine "improved" on his actual
play. The Dover edition I had was inexpensive
and compact, but most people seem to like
a book which can lie open flat, with good-sized
text and diagrams.
I will admit that a correct conversion from
descriptive to algebraic notation might be
beyond the capabilities of a Sam Sloan or a
Rob Mitchell, but for some of us, this would
be no problem whatever.
-- help bot
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 08:59:09
From:
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 20, 6:07=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 19, 2:44=A0pm, EJAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 1:45=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > samsloan wrote:
> > > > My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> > > > available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>
> > > >http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=3D09=
238...
>
> > > > This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read a=
nd
> > > > studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>
> > > > The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most compl=
ex
> > > > and difficult concepts.
>
> > > > Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best ga=
mes
> > > > was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>
> > > > World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the firs=
t
> > > > luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influen=
ce
> > > > on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> > > > ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>
> > > > Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> > > > deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It =
was
> > > > in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> > > > concepts."
>
> > > > Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large par=
t
> > > > in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this boo=
k
> > > > added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more t=
han
> > > > a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> > > > aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> > > > ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>
> > > > ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>
> > > > This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>
> > > > This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> > > > last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> > > > Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>
> > > > Sam Sloan
>
> > > Sam, it it in algebraic?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Too bad it is not in algebraic.This is my favorite book.When I study
> > it my tactical game improves greatly.There is an earlier post on who
> > would win an Anand-Alekhine Match. At the top of his game Alekhine
> > would have been favored against almost anybody.He beat the great
> > Capablanca !!With today's modern methods and Alekhine's love for the
> > game I am sure he would have been able to compete in the modern game
> > that has evolved
>
> A point which should be made is that any attempt to convert a book
> from descriptive to algebraic notation carries the risk of typos. Make
> no mistake, there are typos in every book.
>
> The most infamous typo ever in a chess book was made by Grandmaster
> John Nunn when he converted "My 60 Memorable Games" to algebraic.
The error you refer to is not a typo. "Typo" is short for
typographical error, and usually refers to an inadvertent misspelling,
e.g. "Sam Slaon." What you discuss here is an analytical error, a
chess oversight involving several moves.
> Grandmaster Nunn also added a few notes of his own and in so doing
> included an illegal move in his analysis. Nunn wrote that a certain
> move would have been better than the move that Bobby Fischer played,
> but Nunn was wrong. The move that Bobby played had been the best move.
> The line Nunn recommended had included an illegal move to work!
Two points:
(1) It is probably incorrect to blame Nunn for that error. He was
the _typesetter_ for the Batsford edition, not its editor. The error
more likely stemmed from Graham Burgess, managing editor of Batsford's
chess line at that time. AFAIK, Batsford has never said specifically
who put that note in the 1995 edition of M60MG.
(2) Probably neither Nunn nor Burgess was the _original_ source of
that error. As Edward Winter shows here:
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/fischer.html
its first known appearance was in an article by Ludwig Rellstab in
Schach-Echo, 23 April 1962, page 121, only about a month after the
game in question (Fischer-Bolbochan, Stockholm Interzonal 1962) was
played. It also found its way into two Russian books, including the
Russian version of M60MG, and is also seen in Larry Evans' "Modern
Chess Brilliancies." Considering that Batsford's staff was more likely
to consult English-language sources rather than German or Russian, one
wonders if the Evans book was where they got the erroneous note.
> Bobby spotted the error (I think he was the first to point it out)
No, he was not. As Winter shows, the error was pointed out in print
as early as 1976, by Irving Chernev, in the July issue of CHESS.
Chernev was citing the Evans book. Despite this correction, the
erroneous note was still there in the 1994 algebraic edition of
"Modern Chess Brilliancies."
> and
> eventually filed suit to stop the printing of the Nunn revision. This
> explains the fact that "My 60 Memorable Games" was never otherwise
> converted to algebraic while Bobby was alive.
>
> Now that Bobby Fischer is no longer alive, the same company that
> brought out the botched revision of "My 60 Memorable Games" has
> brought it out again just three weeks ago. They swear that this time
> all typographical errors have been removed. Whether they have the
> right to reprint Bobby's book remains unclear. We will have to wait
> and see.
>
> Sam Sloan
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 08:36:24
From:
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 20, 6:07=A0am, samsloan <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 19, 2:44=A0pm, EJAY <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 19, 1:45=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > samsloan wrote:
> > > > My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> > > > available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>
> > > >http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=3D09=
238...
>
> > > > This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read a=
nd
> > > > studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>
> > > > The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most compl=
ex
> > > > and difficult concepts.
>
> > > > Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best ga=
mes
> > > > was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>
> > > > World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the firs=
t
> > > > luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influen=
ce
> > > > on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> > > > ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>
> > > > Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> > > > deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It =
was
> > > > in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> > > > concepts."
>
> > > > Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large par=
t
> > > > in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this boo=
k
> > > > added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more t=
han
> > > > a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> > > > aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> > > > ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>
> > > > ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>
> > > > This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>
> > > > This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> > > > last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> > > > Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>
> > > > Sam Sloan
>
> A point which should be made is that any attempt to convert a book
> from descriptive to algebraic notation carries the risk of typos. Make
> no mistake, there are typos in every book.
Except those moves input by sensory board. It seems standard now to do
that in Russia, and both Taimanov and Karpov do that. Phil Innes
> The most infamous typo ever in a chess book was made by Grandmaster
> John Nunn when he converted "My 60 Memorable Games" to algebraic.
> Grandmaster Nunn also added a few notes of his own and in so doing
> included an illegal move in his analysis. Nunn wrote that a certain
> move would have been better than the move that Bobby Fischer played,
> but Nunn was wrong. The move that Bobby played had been the best move.
> The line Nunn recommended had included an illegal move to work!
>
> Bobby spotted the error (I think he was the first to point it out) and
> eventually filed suit to stop the printing of the Nunn revision. This
> explains the fact that "My 60 Memorable Games" was never otherwise
> converted to algebraic while Bobby was alive.
>
> Now that Bobby Fischer is no longer alive, the same company that
> brought out the botched revision of "My 60 Memorable Games" has
> brought it out again just three weeks ago. They swear that this time
> all typographical errors have been removed. Whether they have the
> right to reprint Bobby's book remains unclear. We will have to wait
> and see.
>
> Sam Sloan
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 06:04:02
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 19, 5:04=A0pm, [email protected] wrote:
> It's identical to the Dover edition (which you can probably find for
> less on line). He simply scanned the pages reproduced them. The only
> differences are intros by Sam Sloan (about the Nazi articles) and
> Jerry Hanken (about Jerry Hanken). Despite Sam's involvement, it's
> still one of the best chess books around.
Perhaps Sloan will publish his 'essay' here about the Alekhine Nazi
articles. Potentially it rivals the 'best' work of Phil "Dickens was
out of print in England" Innes for nuttery.
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 06:00:03
From: The Historian
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 19, 7:21=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> Actually there is a used copy available online in As New condition for
> $15.00 published in 1985. =A0The problem with Dover editions, in my
> experience, has been that the quality of the paper varied considerably
> at times--some editions having better low acidity properties than others.
I've not found this to be so. My Dover chess books have held up well
over the years. In fact, all my Dover books have held up well, aside
from a couple of cheap "thrift editions." But then again, I didn't
expect that much from books that retail for a dollar.
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 03:07:55
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 19, 2:44=A0pm, EJAY <[email protected] > wrote:
> On Dec 19, 1:45=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > samsloan wrote:
> > > My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> > > available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>
> > >http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=3D0923=
8...
>
> > > This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
> > > studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>
> > > The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
> > > and difficult concepts.
>
> > > Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best game=
s
> > > was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>
> > > World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
> > > luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
> > > on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> > > ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>
> > > Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> > > deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It wa=
s
> > > in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> > > concepts."
>
> > > Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
> > > in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
> > > added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more tha=
n
> > > a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> > > aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> > > ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>
> > > ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>
> > > This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>
> > > This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> > > last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> > > Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>
> > > Sam Sloan
>
> > Sam, it it in algebraic?- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Too bad it is not in algebraic.This is my favorite book.When I study
> it my tactical game improves greatly.There is an earlier post on who
> would win an Anand-Alekhine Match. At the top of his game Alekhine
> would have been favored against almost anybody.He beat the great
> Capablanca !!With today's modern methods and Alekhine's love for the
> game I am sure he would have been able to compete in the modern game
> that has evolved
A point which should be made is that any attempt to convert a book
from descriptive to algebraic notation carries the risk of typos. Make
no mistake, there are typos in every book.
The most infamous typo ever in a chess book was made by Grandmaster
John Nunn when he converted "My 60 Memorable Games" to algebraic.
Grandmaster Nunn also added a few notes of his own and in so doing
included an illegal move in his analysis. Nunn wrote that a certain
move would have been better than the move that Bobby Fischer played,
but Nunn was wrong. The move that Bobby played had been the best move.
The line Nunn recommended had included an illegal move to work!
Bobby spotted the error (I think he was the first to point it out) and
eventually filed suit to stop the printing of the Nunn revision. This
explains the fact that "My 60 Memorable Games" was never otherwise
converted to algebraic while Bobby was alive.
Now that Bobby Fischer is no longer alive, the same company that
brought out the botched revision of "My 60 Memorable Games" has
brought it out again just three weeks ago. They swear that this time
all typographical errors have been removed. Whether they have the
right to reprint Bobby's book remains unclear. We will have to wait
and see.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Dec 2008 16:42:33
From: billbrock
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
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On Dec 19, 6:21=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > B. Lafferty wrote:
> >> [email protected] wrote:
> >>> B. Lafferty wrote:
> >>>> samsloan wrote:
> >>>>> My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> >>>>> available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>
> >>>>>http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=3D09=
238...
>
> >>>>> This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read a=
nd
> >>>>> studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>
> >>>>> The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most compl=
ex
> >>>>> and difficult concepts.
>
> >>>>> Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best ga=
mes
> >>>>> was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>
> >>>>> World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the firs=
t
> >>>>> luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influen=
ce
> >>>>> on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> >>>>> ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>
> >>>>> Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> >>>>> deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It =
was
> >>>>> in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> >>>>> concepts."
>
> >>>>> Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large par=
t
> >>>>> in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this boo=
k
> >>>>> added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more t=
han
> >>>>> a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> >>>>> aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> >>>>> ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>
> >>>>> ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>
> >>>>> This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>
> >>>>> This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> >>>>> last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> >>>>> Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>
> >>>>> Sam Sloan
>
> >>>> Sam, it it in algebraic?
>
> >>> It's identical to the Dover edition (which you can probably find for
> >>> less on line). He simply scanned the pages reproduced them. The only
> >>> differences are intros by Sam Sloan (about the Nazi articles) and
> >>> Jerry Hanken (about Jerry Hanken). Despite Sam's involvement, it's
> >>> still one of the best chess books around.
> >> Dear Turnip, I know how Sam does his books. =A0I was just hoping that =
he
> >> did this one a little bit differently. =A0You may wel find it cheaper =
in a
> >> Dover edition, but not necessarily in very good condition. =A0Dover bo=
oks
> >> don't age all that well in my experience. =A0Sort of like Turnips, the=
y
> >> eventually go to rot.
>
> > I hear a faint buzzing ... Oh, look! It's a Class E player pretending
> > he can talk! How cute.
>
> > For the sake of any real chess players out there, you can find copies
> > of "My Best Games of Chess, 1908 - 1937" (which includes the first
> > part which Sam reprinted) in "near fine" condition for $15, though
> > you'd have to pay shipping. The prices are always jumping around, so
> > if you're not in a hurry you can get a better deal. That probably
> > exceeds little Laffi's computer skills, though.
>
> The Trunip rants like a stuck pig. =A0Oh, well. =A0John, you are
> quintessential proof that a high(er) chess rating does not necessarily
> correlate to intellectual ability in areas out side of chess.
>
> Actually there is a used copy available online in As New condition for
> $15.00 published in 1985. =A0The problem with Dover editions, in my
> experience, has been that the quality of the paper varied considerably
> at times--some editions having better low acidity properties than others.
>
> Best Wishes. =A0Hope your root cellar doesn't get too cold tonight.
The Dover edition contains both 1908-23 and 1924-37: two great books
in one unabridged volume.
The Nunn abridgment is not bad (though textual integrity is not
respected--Nunn was not very nice to antisemitic geniuses) and is in
algebraic.
I would go with the Dover, even if it eventually falls apart. The
McKay editions are also nice if they're still floating around.
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Date: 19 Dec 2008 15:36:17
From:
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
|
B. Lafferty wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
> >
> > B. Lafferty wrote:
> >> samsloan wrote:
> >>> My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> >>> available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
> >>>
> >>> http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=0923891498
> >>>
> >>> This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
> >>> studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
> >>>
> >>> The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
> >>> and difficult concepts.
> >>>
> >>> Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
> >>> was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
> >>>
> >>> World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
> >>> luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
> >>> on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> >>> ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
> >>>
> >>> Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> >>> deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
> >>> in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> >>> concepts."
> >>>
> >>> Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
> >>> in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
> >>> added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more than
> >>> a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> >>> aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> >>> ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
> >>>
> >>> ISBN 0-923891-49-8
> >>>
> >>> This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
> >>>
> >>> This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> >>> last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> >>> Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
> >>>
> >>> Sam Sloan
> >>>
> >> Sam, it it in algebraic?
> >
> >
> > It's identical to the Dover edition (which you can probably find for
> > less on line). He simply scanned the pages reproduced them. The only
> > differences are intros by Sam Sloan (about the Nazi articles) and
> > Jerry Hanken (about Jerry Hanken). Despite Sam's involvement, it's
> > still one of the best chess books around.
>
> Dear Turnip, I know how Sam does his books. I was just hoping that he
> did this one a little bit differently. You may wel find it cheaper in a
> Dover edition, but not necessarily in very good condition. Dover books
> don't age all that well in my experience. Sort of like Turnips, they
> eventually go to rot.
I hear a faint buzzing ... Oh, look! It's a Class E player pretending
he can talk! How cute.
For the sake of any real chess players out there, you can find copies
of "My Best Games of Chess, 1908 - 1937" (which includes the first
part which Sam reprinted) in "near fine" condition for $15, though
you'd have to pay shipping. The prices are always jumping around, so
if you're not in a hurry you can get a better deal. That probably
exceeds little Laffi's computer skills, though.
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Date: 20 Dec 2008 00:21:46
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available
|
[email protected] wrote:
>
> B. Lafferty wrote:
>> [email protected] wrote:
>>> B. Lafferty wrote:
>>>> samsloan wrote:
>>>>> My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
>>>>> available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=0923891498
>>>>>
>>>>> This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
>>>>> studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>>>>>
>>>>> The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
>>>>> and difficult concepts.
>>>>>
>>>>> Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
>>>>> was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>>>>>
>>>>> World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
>>>>> luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
>>>>> on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
>>>>> ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>>>>>
>>>>> Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
>>>>> deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
>>>>> in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
>>>>> concepts."
>>>>>
>>>>> Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
>>>>> in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
>>>>> added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more than
>>>>> a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
>>>>> aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
>>>>> ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>>>>>
>>>>> ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>>>>>
>>>>> This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>>>>>
>>>>> This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
>>>>> last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
>>>>> Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sam Sloan
>>>>>
>>>> Sam, it it in algebraic?
>>>
>>> It's identical to the Dover edition (which you can probably find for
>>> less on line). He simply scanned the pages reproduced them. The only
>>> differences are intros by Sam Sloan (about the Nazi articles) and
>>> Jerry Hanken (about Jerry Hanken). Despite Sam's involvement, it's
>>> still one of the best chess books around.
>> Dear Turnip, I know how Sam does his books. I was just hoping that he
>> did this one a little bit differently. You may wel find it cheaper in a
>> Dover edition, but not necessarily in very good condition. Dover books
>> don't age all that well in my experience. Sort of like Turnips, they
>> eventually go to rot.
>
>
> I hear a faint buzzing ... Oh, look! It's a Class E player pretending
> he can talk! How cute.
>
> For the sake of any real chess players out there, you can find copies
> of "My Best Games of Chess, 1908 - 1937" (which includes the first
> part which Sam reprinted) in "near fine" condition for $15, though
> you'd have to pay shipping. The prices are always jumping around, so
> if you're not in a hurry you can get a better deal. That probably
> exceeds little Laffi's computer skills, though.
The Trunip rants like a stuck pig. Oh, well. John, you are
quintessential proof that a high(er) chess rating does not necessarily
correlate to intellectual ability in areas out side of chess.
Actually there is a used copy available online in As New condition for
$15.00 published in 1985. The problem with Dover editions, in my
experience, has been that the quality of the paper varied considerably
at times--some editions having better low acidity properties than others.
Best Wishes. Hope your root cellar doesn't get too cold tonight.
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Date: 19 Dec 2008 15:35:13
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
|
On Dec 19, 5:09=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> [email protected] wrote:
>
> > B. Lafferty wrote:
> >> samsloan wrote:
> >>> My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> >>> available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>
> >>>http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=3D0923=
8...
>
> >>> This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
> >>> studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>
> >>> The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
> >>> and difficult concepts.
>
> >>> Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best game=
s
> >>> was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>
> >>> World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
> >>> luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
> >>> on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> >>> ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>
> >>> Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> >>> deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It wa=
s
> >>> in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> >>> concepts."
>
> >>> Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
> >>> in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
> >>> added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more tha=
n
> >>> a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> >>> aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> >>> ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>
> >>> ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>
> >>> This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>
> >>> This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> >>> last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> >>> Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>
> >>> Sam Sloan
>
> >> Sam, it it in algebraic?
>
> > It's identical to the Dover edition (which you can probably find for
> > less on line). He simply scanned the pages reproduced them. The only
> > differences are intros by Sam Sloan (about the Nazi articles) and
> > Jerry Hanken (about Jerry Hanken). Despite Sam's involvement, it's
> > still one of the best chess books around.
>
> Dear Turnip, I know how Sam does his books. =A0I was just hoping that he
> did this one a little bit differently. =A0You may wel find it cheaper in =
a
> Dover edition, but not necessarily in very good condition. =A0Dover books
> don't age all that well in my experience. =A0Sort of like Turnips, they
> eventually go to rot.
Have you ever actually seen one of my books?
They are usually better than the original. Larger size, bigger type.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Dec 2008 14:04:09
From:
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
|
B. Lafferty wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
> > My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> > available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
> >
> > http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=0923891498
> >
> > This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
> > studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
> >
> > The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
> > and difficult concepts.
> >
> > Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
> > was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
> >
> > World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
> > luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
> > on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> > ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
> >
> > Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> > deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
> > in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> > concepts."
> >
> > Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
> > in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
> > added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more than
> > a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> > aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> > ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
> >
> > ISBN 0-923891-49-8
> >
> > This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
> >
> > This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> > last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> > Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
> >
> > Sam Sloan
> >
> Sam, it it in algebraic?
It's identical to the Dover edition (which you can probably find for
less on line). He simply scanned the pages reproduced them. The only
differences are intros by Sam Sloan (about the Nazi articles) and
Jerry Hanken (about Jerry Hanken). Despite Sam's involvement, it's
still one of the best chess books around.
|
| | |
Date: 19 Dec 2008 22:09:46
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available
|
[email protected] wrote:
>
> B. Lafferty wrote:
>> samsloan wrote:
>>> My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
>>> available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>>>
>>> http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=0923891498
>>>
>>> This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
>>> studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>>>
>>> The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
>>> and difficult concepts.
>>>
>>> Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
>>> was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>>>
>>> World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
>>> luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
>>> on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
>>> ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>>>
>>> Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
>>> deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
>>> in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
>>> concepts."
>>>
>>> Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
>>> in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
>>> added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more than
>>> a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
>>> aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
>>> ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>>>
>>> ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>>>
>>> This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>>>
>>> This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
>>> last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
>>> Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>>>
>>> Sam Sloan
>>>
>> Sam, it it in algebraic?
>
>
> It's identical to the Dover edition (which you can probably find for
> less on line). He simply scanned the pages reproduced them. The only
> differences are intros by Sam Sloan (about the Nazi articles) and
> Jerry Hanken (about Jerry Hanken). Despite Sam's involvement, it's
> still one of the best chess books around.
Dear Turnip, I know how Sam does his books. I was just hoping that he
did this one a little bit differently. You may wel find it cheaper in a
Dover edition, but not necessarily in very good condition. Dover books
don't age all that well in my experience. Sort of like Turnips, they
eventually go to rot.
|
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Date: 19 Dec 2008 11:44:53
From: EJAY
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
|
On Dec 19, 1:45=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
> > My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> > available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>
> >http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=3D09238.=
..
>
> > This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
> > studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>
> > The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
> > and difficult concepts.
>
> > Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
> > was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>
> > World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
> > luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
> > on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> > ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>
> > Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> > deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
> > in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> > concepts."
>
> > Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
> > in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
> > added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more than
> > a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> > aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> > ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>
> > ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>
> > This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>
> > This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> > last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> > Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> Sam, it it in algebraic?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
Too bad it is not in algebraic.This is my favorite book.When I study
it my tactical game improves greatly.There is an earlier post on who
would win an Anand-Alekhine Match. At the top of his game Alekhine
would have been favored against almost anybody.He beat the great
Capablanca !!With today's moden methods and Alekhine's love for the
game I am sure he would have been able to compete in the modern game
that has evolved
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Date: 19 Dec 2008 11:18:03
From: samsloan
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available at
|
On Dec 19, 1:45=A0pm, "B. Lafferty" <[email protected] > wrote:
> samsloan wrote:
> > My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> > available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>
> >http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=3D09238.=
..
>
> > This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
> > studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>
> > The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
> > and difficult concepts.
>
> > Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
> > was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>
> > World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
> > luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
> > on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> > ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>
> > Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> > deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
> > in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> > concepts."
>
> > Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
> > in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
> > added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more than
> > a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> > aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> > ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>
> > ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>
> > This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>
> > This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> > last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> > Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>
> > Sam Sloan
>
> Sam, it it in algebraic?
No.
Sad, it is not, that our highly intelligent young chess players are
incapable of figuring out that P-K4 is the same as e4.
Sam Sloan
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Date: 19 Dec 2008 18:45:23
From: B. Lafferty
Subject: Re: My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alekhine is now available
|
samsloan wrote:
> My Best Games of Chess 1908-1923 by Alexander Alekhine is now
> available at Barnes and Noble Bookstores everywhere.
>
> http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbninquiry.asp?ean=0923891498
>
> This is the book that every chess master and grandmaster has read and
> studied and every aspiring chess master should be reading.
>
> The author, a World Chess Champion, clearly explains the most complex
> and difficult concepts.
>
> Grandmaster Reuben Fine wrote that Alekhine's collection of best games
> was one of the three most beautiful that he knew.
>
> World Champion Garry Kasparov wrote, "Alexander Alekine is the first
> luminary among the others who are still having the greatest influence
> on me. I like his universality, his approach to the game, his chess
> ideas. I am sure that the future belongs to Alekhine chess."
>
> Bobby Fischer wrote, "He had great imagination. He could see more
> deeply into a situation than any other player in chess history. It was
> in the most complicated positions that Alekhine found his grandest
> concepts."
>
> Chess Journalist Jerry Hanken writes, "This book played a large part
> in my ultimate development as a Chess Master. The study of this book
> added nearly 400 points to my rating. The World Champion has more than
> a mere game collection here. There are superb insights into all
> aspects of the game. The Great Master uses a very practical set of
> ways to start the game and he explains them lucidly."
>
> ISBN 0-923891-49-8
>
> This book includes an introduction by Jerry Hanken.
>
> This book appears at Barnes and Noble through an agreement reached
> last week by which most Ishi Press books will be available at all
> Barnes and Noble stores and other stores worldwide.
>
> Sam Sloan
>
Sam, it it in algebraic?
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