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Date: 17 Oct 2004 01:40:08
From: Esther
Subject: Most problems in the world are caused by a Israeli-lobby Jews!
In the words of chess legend Bobby Fischer:

"The United States is a farce controlled by dirty, hook-nosed
circumcised Jew bastards."

Now the Jews are trying to control the whole world!

Here are the facts:

Most of the important advisors to the US goverenment are members of
the Israeli lobby:
http://holywar.org/S71.htm

The Defense Planning Guidance written during the early 90s explicitly
outlines the desires to develop a one world superpower:
http://work.colum.edu/~amiller/wolfowitz1992.htm

Now that the same people are in power again, the same policy is being
applied.

No REAL proof has been provided as to who was responsible for the
September 11 attacks. You could just as well assume that Israel
and some high ranking US government officials were responsible:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

Furthermore, it was after the September 11 attacks that the wars
started and Rumsfeld etc had a chance to test their new "techniques"
of war.

The current world trend has some striking similarities to a document
produced at the beginning of the 20th century:
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

Israel constantly has many spies deployed (dispersed) all over the
world secretly:
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/Israeldata.html

Ruport Murdoch controls a large proportion of the media and he has may
Jewish supporters many in the US government:
http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/traitors.html

Don't get me wrong. There are lots of great Jewish people alive who
are brilliant in many respects.
Unfortunately, these power thirsty Zionist Jews spoil it for everyone.

Everyone should be concerned about this small minority since they are
the root
cause of most of today's hardships and problems (both directly and
indirectly). They can be thought of a strong contributor
to the moral decay of society (i.e. through movies, advertising etc).

Finally, my advice is watch TV but don't believe everything your told.
Do some searching
for yourself and see if based on the facts, what you're being told is
true.

Please tell others about what I've told you. I have VERY secure
sources!




 
Date: 18 Oct 2004 03:04:42
From: A Guy
Subject: Re: Most problems in the world are caused by a Israeli-lobby Jews!
Much Crap Snipped - Answers below:


"Esther" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In the words of chess legend Bobby Fischer:

Fischer - great chess player. Otherwise a psycho.

> Here are the facts:
>
> Most of the important advisors to the US goverenment are members of
> the Israeli lobby:

Rubbish - ALL special interests have lobbyists and advisers in Washington.
Singling out Israelis is a straw man.

> The Defense Planning Guidance written during the early 90s explicitly
> outlines the desires to develop a one world superpower:

This is ostensibly American, not Israeli policy - Again, this is a straw
man.

>
> No REAL proof has been provided as to who was responsible for the
> September 11 attacks. You could just as well assume that Israel
> and some high ranking US government officials were responsible:

This is absolutely stunning. AL QAEDA ADMITTED IT. Get a life.

> The current world trend has some striking similarities to a document
> produced at the beginning of the 20th century:

This false document is a product of anti-Semites, and has been shown as such
OVER AND OVER. Get a life.

> Israel constantly has many spies deployed (dispersed) all over the
> world secretly:

ALL COUNTRIES deploy spies around the world. Secretly. That's the point.
Singling out Israelis is a straw man.

> Ruport Murdoch controls a large proportion of the media and he has may
> Jewish supporters many in the US government:

Yeah, but HE isn't Jewish, is he... Kinda blows your whole theory up...to
coin a phrase.

> Don't get me wrong. There are lots of great Jewish people alive who
> are brilliant in many respects.
> Unfortunately, these power thirsty Zionist Jews spoil it for everyone.

Unlike, say, power thirsty Palestinians or power thirsty <fill in the
blank >? Slander isn't an argument.
They want safe borders. The end.

-- SNIP--

> Finally, my advice is watch TV but don't believe everything your told.
> Do some searching
> for yourself and see if based on the facts, what you're being told is
> true.

FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVISE.




  
Date: 20 Oct 2004 05:59:51
From: Esther
Subject: Re: Most problems in the world are caused by a Israeli-lobby Jews!
> Fischer - great chess player. Otherwise a psycho.

You say he's a psycho just because his views are vastly different to
yours. Why is it that someone else completely agrees with him a thinks
he's perfectly "sane" ??

> Rubbish - ALL special interests have lobbyists and advisers in Washington.
> Singling out Israelis is a straw man.

The other special interest groups don't take over other countries to
exploit their oil (Making Dick Cheney etc richer), protect Israel and
kill over 40,000 innocent civilians. What if some country were to take
over Israel because they perceived it as a threat (due to its huge
stockpile of nuclear weapons) - what would you say then (you'd
probably cry anti-semitism)??

> This is ostensibly American, not Israeli policy - Again, this is a straw
> man.

Don't you get it - the US government and Isreali government are one
and the same - they are both controlled by the same people, interests
etc

> This is absolutely stunning. AL QAEDA ADMITTED IT. Get a life.

No decisive proof has been given. Al Qaeda admitting it doesn't mean a
thing! For all that we know, they too could be controlled by the US.
Why hasn't the US captured Bin-Ladin yet with all these weapons and
resouces they have at their disposal. Furthermore, why jump to Iraq
and ruin their country when Bin Ladin hasn't been "brought to justice"
yet? If you remember correctly the initial talk was to stop terrorism
by getting Bin Ladin out first! Saddam and Iraq have/had no links
whatsoever with Bin Ladin so this shows someones lying to the public!!

> This false document is a product of anti-Semites, and has been shown as such
> OVER AND OVER. Get a life.

Shown by whom. You'd believe anything your told. Honestly read the
document and see if there aren't any similarities with current world
trends.

> ALL COUNTRIES deploy spies around the world. Secretly. That's the point.
> Singling out Israelis is a straw man.

That's completely wrong. The spies are predominantly US and Israeli!

> Yeah, but HE isn't Jewish, is he... Kinda blows your whole theory up...to
> coin a phrase.

I didn't say he was Jewish! I said that a large number of his
supporters and sponsors are Jewish. Do you think that if he says
something that offends them, they are goind to support him for a
second?

> Unlike, say, power thirsty Palestinians or power thirsty <fill in the
> blank>? Slander isn't an argument.
> They want safe borders. The end.

Your insane to suggest the Palesinians are power thirsty. They are
constantly bombarded by the Israelis and forced out of their homes.
Also, you can't expect to kill a member of someone's family (as the
Israeli's do constantly to the Palestinians) and expect them to be
your friend - of course they are going to be angry and retaliate.

>
> > Finally, my advice is watch TV but don't believe everything your told.
> > Do some searching
> > for yourself and see if based on the facts, what you're being told is
> > true.
>
> FOLLOW YOUR OWN ADVISE.

I do!


   
Date: 22 Oct 2004 18:21:54
From: A Guy
Subject: Re: Most problems in the world are caused by a Israeli-lobby Jews!

"Esther" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

<much snipped to get to the salient point >

>
>> This is absolutely stunning. AL QAEDA ADMITTED IT. Get a life.
>
> No decisive proof has been given. Al Qaeda admitting it doesn't mean a
> thing! For all that we know, they too could be controlled by the US.

The fact that you can make this statement shows how seriously your other
"commentary" should be taken. Hopefully, that's not too subtle, and you'll
realize I mean "Not at all"

It is useful occasionally replying to posts like your original one, to
remind me of just how ignorant and closed-minded people can be, and how much
work it takes to really find the truth in any given situation. My time
continues to be better spent on that work, rather than engaging the vast
intellectual stock you obviously represent.




    
Date: 27 Oct 2004 03:43:48
From: Esther
Subject: Re: Most problems in the world are caused by a Israeli-lobby Jews!
> The fact that you can make this statement shows how seriously your other
> "commentary" should be taken. Hopefully, that's not too subtle, and you'll
> realize I mean "Not at all"

Of course thats what you're going to think - your mind is narrow and
all you beleive is what you are told through the media. If you
research a little for yourself, you'll see that the hijackers of the
planes had NOTHING to do with AL-QAEDA and were mostly saudi
citizens!!

> It is useful occasionally replying to posts like your original one, to
> remind me of just how ignorant and closed-minded people can be, and how much
> work it takes to really find the truth in any given situation. My time
> continues to be better spent on that work, rather than engaging the vast
> intellectual stock you obviously represent.

In my view, you are closed-minded and the exact same description
applies to you. All that can be said is we are both presenting totally
different views - that's all. Unfortunately (and incorrectly), most
people in the US believe your veiw - this is worrying!


     
Date: 29 Oct 2004 23:56:44
From: A Guy
Subject: Re: Most problems in the world are caused by a Israeli-lobby Jews!
In the future, when replying to me, include your prior comments so others
can judge on the merits. Again, this shows far more about you than me.

For reference - paraphrasing, since he didn't have the courtesy to include
it - he said that Al Qaeda had nothing to do with 9/11

To which I say again - ridiculous, and sufficiently so to ignore his further
comments. Just trying to clear the record so everyone else can make up
their own minds about who's hiding behind rhetoric and who's simply looking
for the objective truth - which includes accepting facts that are clearly in
evidence.


"Esther" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
>> The fact that you can make this statement shows how seriously your other
>> "commentary" should be taken. Hopefully, that's not too subtle, and
>> you'll
>> realize I mean "Not at all"
>
> Of course thats what you're going to think - your mind is narrow and
> all you beleive is what you are told through the media. If you
> research a little for yourself, you'll see that the hijackers of the
> planes had NOTHING to do with AL-QAEDA and were mostly saudi
> citizens!!
>
>> It is useful occasionally replying to posts like your original one, to
>> remind me of just how ignorant and closed-minded people can be, and how
>> much
>> work it takes to really find the truth in any given situation. My time
>> continues to be better spent on that work, rather than engaging the vast
>> intellectual stock you obviously represent.
>
> In my view, you are closed-minded and the exact same description
> applies to you. All that can be said is we are both presenting totally
> different views - that's all. Unfortunately (and incorrectly), most
> people in the US believe your veiw - this is worrying!




    
Date: 24 Oct 2004 08:16:18
From: SicilianDragon
Subject: Re: Most problems in the world are caused by a Israeli-lobby Jews!
Are you trying to say that Arab terrorists are working for the
Jew-controlled U.S. government and were hired to fly planes into U.S.
financial and military targets which has subsequently crippled the
U.S. economy. The Bush administration may be dumb, but they're not
going to cut off their nose to spite their face.

In addition, Fischer is not mad because of what he believes. To the
contrary, he believes what he does BECAUSE he is mad!!


   
Date: 20 Oct 2004 17:56:35
From: Tim Eberly
Subject: Re: Most problems in the world are caused by a Israeli-lobby Jews!
>> This is absolutely stunning. AL QAEDA ADMITTED IT. Get a life.

> No decisive proof has been given. Al Qaeda admitting it doesn't mean a
> thing! For all that we know, they too could be controlled by the US.

Mind boggling. No decisive proof as been given? What do you call admitting
it? If admitting it isn't "proof" then why not admit that you don't know if
they DID do it? Backing up your claim by saying there is no proof to the
contrary is logically flawed, and childish big time. The mass of evidence we
do have, including their admitting it, points to Al Qaeda. It does not point
elsewhere. The evidence points to countries that want to destroy Israel, not
to Israel itself. It is moronic to say it points somewhere else because
there is a lack of evidence. If there truly is a lack of evidence it would
point to no one.

Take a logics class.




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