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Date: 04 Aug 2006 05:44:23
From: THUDandBLUNDER
Subject: Lolli (?)
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After
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 Nc6
3. Bc4 Nf6
4. Ng5 d5
5. exd5 Nxd5?!
6. d4
is Heisman's 6....Nxd4 7. c3 b5 (or f6) viable?
Thanks.
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Date: 04 Aug 2006 06:30:45
From:
Subject: Re: Lolli (?)
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THUDandBLUNDER wrote:
> After
> 1. e4 e5
> 2. Nf3 Nc6
> 3. Bc4 Nf6
> 4. Ng5 d5
> 5. exd5 Nxd5?!
> 6. d4
> is Heisman's 6....Nxd4 7. c3 b5 (or f6) viable?
>
> Thanks.
This doesn't look that good for Black. After 7.c3 b5, White has 8.Bf1
(or Bd3).
Or perhaps even 7.Nf7 Kf7, 8.c3 (and after 8...Bg4, 9.Qg4 Nc2, 10.Kf1
Na1 White has a strong attack.
Of course, this is just cursory.
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Date: 20 Aug 2006 04:55:55
From: bellatori
Subject: Re: Lolli (?)
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Attached are 5 recent games in this line, all wins for White. If you are
interested in the two knights defence then you have to read the pamphlet
by the late Estrin who was THE expert on this opening.
[Event "Bethune op 22nd"]
[Site "Bethune"]
[Date "2001.12.27"]
[Round "4"]
[White "Middelhoven, Huib"]
[Black "Baguant, Kamalkishore"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "C57"]
[PlyCount "43"]
[EventDate "2001.12.26"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "7"]
[EventCountry "FRA"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2002.01.21"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. d4 Nxd4 7. c3 Be7
(
7... Ne6 8. Qxd5 Qxd5 (8... h6 9. Qxd8+ Nxd8 10. Nf3 e4 11. Nd4 Bc5 12.
O-O O-O
13. Re1 Re8 14. f3 Nc6 15. fxe4 Bxd4+ 16. cxd4 Nxd4 17. Na3 Bf5 18. Be3
Rxe4
19. Bxd4 Rxd4 20. Rf1 Bg6 21. Bb3 c5 22. Rac1 Rc8 23. Rfd1 Rd3 24. Bc4 Rd4
25.
Rxd4 cxd4 26. Bxf7+ Kxf7 27. Rxc8 d3 28. Rc1 Bh5 29. Rf1+ Kg6 30. h3 Be2
31.
Kf2 Bxf1 32. Kxf1 Kf5 33. Ke1 Ke4 34. Kd2 Kd4 35. Nb5+ Ke4 36. Nd6+ Kf4
37. Nc4
Kg3 38. Ne3 g6 39. Kxd3 {1-0 Terochin,P-Khamidow,K/Wroclaw 2005/CBM 106
ext})
9. Bxd5 Nxg5 10. Bxg5 f6 11. Be3 h5 12. Nd2 Ke7 13. Bc5+ Kd8 14. Bxf8 Rxf8
15.
O-O-O c6 16. Bf3 Be6 17. Nc4+ Kc7 18. Nd2 h4 19. b3 Rad8 20. Ne4 Bd5 21.
c4
Bxe4 22. Bxe4 Rd4 23. Rxd4 exd4 24. Rd1 Rd8 25. Bd3 Kb6 26. Re1 c5 27. Re4
Rh8
28. Re7 h3 29. g3 Ka5 30. Rxb7 {
1-0 Andrikopoulou,E-Thrasyvoulidou,X/Aghia Pelagia 2004/CBM 101 ext})
(7... b5
8. Bf1 h6 9. cxd4 Bb4+ 10. Bd2 Qxg5 11. Nc3 Bxc3 12. bxc3 Qg6 13. dxe5 O-O
14.
f4 Bg4 15. Qb1 Qxb1+ 16. Rxb1 a6 17. c4 bxc4 18. Bxc4 Nb6 19. Bb3 Rfd8 20.
Ba5
Rd4 21. O-O Rad8 22. Rbc1 R8d7 23. Rxc7 Rxc7 24. Bxb6 Rcd7 25. Bxd4 Rxd4
26. f5
Re4 27. h3 Be2 28. Re1 Bd3 29. Rxe4 Bxe4 30. g4 Kf8 31. Kf2 Ke7 32. Ke3
Bg2 33.
h4 Bc6 34. g5 hxg5 35. hxg5 Bb7 36. Kd4 Bc8 37. f6+ gxf6 38. gxf6+ Ke8 39.
Kc5
Bd7 40. Kb6 Bb5 41. a4 Be2 42. Bd5 Bd1 43. Bc6+ Kd8 44. Kxa6 {
1-0 Langier,D-Dell'Oca,G/Buenos Aires 2004/CBM 102 ext}) 8. cxd4 (8. Nxf7
Kxf7
9. cxd4 Ke8 10. Qh5+ g6 11. Qxe5 Nf6 12. Bg5 Rf8 13. O-O Ng4 14. Qe2 Rf5
15.
Bxe7 Qxe7 16. Re1 Qxe2 17. Bxe2 Ne5 18. dxe5 Ke7 19. Bg4 Rf4 20. Bxc8 Rxc8
21.
Nc3 c6 22. Rad1 Ke6 23. Rd6+ Ke7 24. Rd2 Ke6 25. Ne4 Ke7 26. f3 Rff8 27.
Nf6 h6
28. f4 Rc7 29. Red1 Rxf6 30. exf6+ Kxf6 31. g4 Re7 32. Rd6+ Kf7 33. Rd7
Kf6 34.
g5+ hxg5 35. fxg5+ Kf7 36. Kf2 Ke6 37. Rxe7+ Kxe7 38. Kf3 Ke6 39. Ke4 b5
40.
Rd8 c5 41. Ra8 b4 42. Rxa7 c4 43. Ra6+ Kd7 44. Kd4 {
1-0 Hasling,R-Vesterli,S/Copenhagen 2004/CBM 098 ext}) 8... Bxg5 9. Bxg5
Qxg5
10. Bxd5 c6 11. Bf3 Be6 12. O-O O-O-O 13. Qa4 Rxd4 14. Qxa7 Rhd8 15. Nc3
f5 16.
Nb5 Re4 17. Qa8+ Kd7 18. Qxb7+ Ke8 19. Nc7+ Kd7 20. Bxe4 fxe4 21. Rfd1+
Ke7 22.
Rxd8 1-0
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