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Date: 26 Mar 2007 00:50:23
From: Sanny
Subject: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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I heard a lot of skipy news about GetClub. I am assured those who play
at GetClub like it a lot. While Those who have not played are the only
once who are out raged.
Here is the Current Story about GetClub Chess.
http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
1. Master Level is now not so easy. It took Chess_Freak 41 moves to
win it.
2. Normal Level is what one can Comprehend and most of Good players
can win it.
3. Easy Level plays fast and is easy to win.
4. Beginner Level is for beginner like me it is quite fast making
moves in 10 sec/ move.
Players who will try higher levels will have to loose now, as the game
will take full advantage of it's each move. It thinks to higher depth
So no more easy captures possible.
Here is game between Chess_Freak and Master Level at GetClub.com
Chess.
White: Chess_Freak
Black: Master Level
Game Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4
3. c3 Nc6 {is it a wrong move by White/ Black?}
4. cxd4 d5
5. e5 Qh4
6. Nf3 Qg4
7. Nc3 Bb4
8. Be3 Ne7
9. h3 Qe6
10. Bd3 f6
11. exf6 Qxf6
12. 0-0 h6
13. R-e1 0-0
14. Nh2 Bf5
15. a3 Bxc3
16. bxc3 Bxd3
17 Qxd3 Qg6
18. Qxg6 Nxg6
19. Nf3 R(a8)-e8
20. R(a1)-b1 R(e8)-b8
21. Re2 Rf6
22. R(b1)-e1 h5
23. B-d2 N-f8
24.Ne5 Rf5
25. Nxc6 bxc6
26. Re7 Rb2
27. R(e1)-e2 Rf7
28.Re5 Nd7
29. Re8+ Rf8
30. Bg5 Rb1
31. Kh2 Rf1
32. f3 a6
33. R(e8)-e7 R-f5
34. Bh4 Nf6
35. Rxc7 g5 {Master Level now a pawn down.}
36. Re7 Kf8
37. Rf7 Kg8
38. Rg7 Kh8 {Slowly moving king to corner.}
39. Bg3 h4
40. Be5 Ne8
41. Rh7 Kg8 {and Black Resigns.}
Complete Recorded Game can be viewed at:
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM6988&game=Chess
In this game initially White sacrificed a pawn at move 2 But I do not
understand why Black exchanged pawns Instead of 3. ... Nc6 Black
should have killed the pawn at c3 with 1 pawn material advantage.
Secondly Black allowed white rooks to attack it's Queen was there a
way to stop the Rooks.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
You can play Chess with Computer as well as Human opponents here.
And your Games are Recorded. http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 28 Mar 2007 23:51:23
From: help bot
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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On 27, 10:23 pm, Patrick Volk <[email protected] > wrote:
> >For Complete recorded game along with time taken visit
> >http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM6988&game=Chess
>
> That is a lie. You have a timer on there, but it has nothing to do
> with the game time. Interesting to see as well your master level seems
> to have an Elo of 558.
I have noticed that the time displayed sometimes
indeed has "nothing to do with" real time elapsed,
but at other times, it matches up fairly well. My
suggestion was to snatch the time straight from
the user computer's clock, but this seems to have
been ignored.
Why is the so-called Master level now rated only
558? Simple: all these levels started off at 1000,
and were subsequently *pummeled* by strong
players from rgc, month after month. So now,
despite any objective improvements in strength,
the ratings are lower than ever -- and this the more
so since there was recently an adjustment which
allowed a few active players to get in some quick
and easy wins, before reverting back to the normal,
dead-slow speeds of old.
And please note that the comment regarding
coding only shows that you are ignorant as to
how things work at GetClub, for Sanny's problems
with English have nothing whatsoever to do with his
programmers' grave difficulties with chess. : >D
-- help bot
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Date: 28 Mar 2007 00:32:59
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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> took 20sec to make FIRST MOVE on beginner
> and it moves annoyingly slow throughout the
> rest of the game. and its NOT my system thats
> slow
>
First move is Opening move which it makes in fraction of a second.
Rest moves are made in 10-20 seconds.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 22:50:46
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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> > Here is game between Chess_Freak and Master Level atGetClub.com
> >Chess.
>
> Please show move times...
>
For Complete recorded game along with time taken visit
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM6988&game=Chess
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 22:23:35
From: Patrick Volk
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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On 26 2007 22:50:46 -0700, "Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote:
>> > Here is game between Chess_Freak and Master Level atGetClub.com
>> >Chess.
>>
>> Please show move times...
>>
>
>For Complete recorded game along with time taken visit
>http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM6988&game=Chess
That is a lie. You have a timer on there, but it has nothing to do
with the game time. Interesting to see as well your master level seems
to have an Elo of 558.
I just tried to play a game, and got about 20 moves in and it reset
(put me back to the login screen)
The music is annoying.
And I can only guess that your coding is much like your mastery of the
English language. If you want work in business, you should have
passable business english. Your powerpoint at the bottom of your
business page is rather absurd (Remove the It's.. wrong form of
contraction, and Features should be sufficient)
>
>Bye
>Sanny
>
>Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 23:22:50
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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On 28, 7:51 am, Patrick Volk <[email protected] > wrote:
> To follow up, it quit when I was going to be mated in 2, and credited
> me with a loss. I am probably not better than 1000 player on a good
> day with a tailwind.
I am looking at your game with Beginner Level
http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM7051&game=Chess
So you lost the game to Beginner Level. Keep trying. I am also weak
player Beginner has mated me many times. But I do not understand how
other players win even the Master Level which thinks a lot.
Bye
Sanny
Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 28 Mar 2007 22:22:57
From: Patrick Volk
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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On 27 2007 23:22:50 -0700, "Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote:
>On 28, 7:51 am, Patrick Volk <[email protected]> wrote:
>> To follow up, it quit when I was going to be mated in 2, and credited
>> me with a loss. I am probably not better than 1000 player on a good
>> day with a tailwind.
>
>I am looking at your game with Beginner Level
>
>So you lost the game to Beginner Level. Keep trying. I am also weak
>player Beginner has mated me many times. But I do not understand how
>other players win even the Master Level which thinks a lot.
I am a novice chess player, but I would consider myself a
master-level programmer (20+ years experience doing things with safety
and emergency systems. I deal with the DoD, FRA, and FAA as a lead
programmer, and project manager). Instead of responding to my
constructive criticism, you opted to tout your site.
On that note, I don't think I'll be back at your site.
One thing I learned, is when you say something, you have to be ready
to back it up. As soon as you don't, repeating what you say doesn't
make it better, let alone true.
I would reckon you know as much about business as you do about chess.
Bye
Pat
>
>Bye
>Sanny
>
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Date: 28 Mar 2007 05:19:57
From: Inconnux
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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"Patrick Volk" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> On 26 2007 22:50:46 -0700, "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>> > Here is game between Chess_Freak and Master Level atGetClub.com
>>> >Chess.
>>>
>>> Please show move times...
>>>
>>
>>For Complete recorded game along with time taken visit
>>http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM6988&game=Chess
>
>
> That is a lie. You have a timer on there, but it has nothing to do
> with the game time. Interesting to see as well your master level seems
> to have an Elo of 558.
>
> I just tried to play a game, and got about 20 moves in and it reset
> (put me back to the login screen)
>
> The music is annoying.
>
> And I can only guess that your coding is much like your mastery of the
> English language. If you want work in business, you should have
> passable business english. Your powerpoint at the bottom of your
> business page is rather absurd (Remove the It's.. wrong form of
> contraction, and Features should be sufficient)
>
>>
>>Bye
>>Sanny
>>
>>Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
Music / Sound effects are annoying
the webpage layout is pathetic
the site looks like it was designed by a 5yr old
took 20sec to make FIRST MOVE on beginner
and it moves annoyingly slow throughout the
rest of the game. and its NOT my system thats
slow
Delete the whole site and start from scratch with
people who can code more that 'hello world'
Almost every free engine that you can plug into
Arena is better and looks alot more professional
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 22:51:47
From: Patrick Volk
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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To follow up, it quit when I was going to be mated in 2, and credited
me with a loss. I am probably not better than 1000 player on a good
day with a tailwind.
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Date: 27 Mar 2007 17:03:36
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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Sanny wrote:
>>> Here is game between Chess_Freak and Master Level atGetClub.com
>>> Chess.
>> Please show move times...
>>
>
> For Complete recorded game along with time taken visit
> http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM6988&game=Chess
>
> Bye
> Sanny
>
> Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
Please show move times...
--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 21:49:01
From: Ruud
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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"Sanny" <[email protected] > schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
>I heard a lot of skipy news about GetClub. I am assured those who play
> at GetClub like it a lot. While Those who have not played are the only
> once who are out raged.
People are outraged because you keep insisting your game is good and fast,
when people that have played it, time and time are saying it isn't good and
fast at all (you must think that everybody is lying to you, or you don't
care what people say).
Outrage does also occur, when you don't communicate with the people that
have, or have tried to, help you (and are outraged because you pat yourself
on the back for other people's achievements).
But most of all:;; Those who have not played it, are still outraged because
of your plugging your site in this group:::;; and that's because this group
is not meant for that kind of thing.
It's for exchanging information about computerchess. NOT for plugging.
(In fact, the only reason people still react to your posts is because they
have good hearts, and they don't want you to become such an irritating
little man, that everybody wants to, and will one day, kick to get rid of.)
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Date: 26 Mar 2007 13:43:38
From: Kenneth Sloan
Subject: Re: How many players have really Played at GetClub.
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Sanny wrote:
> I heard a lot of skipy news about GetClub. I am assured those who play
> at GetClub like it a lot.
the people who give you these assurances are lying to you.
> While Those who have not played are the only
> once who are out raged.
>
> Here is the Current Story about GetClub Chess.
> http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
>
> 1. Master Level is now not so easy. It took Chess_Freak 41 moves to
> win it.
>
Who does it defeat?
> 2. Normal Level is what one can Comprehend and most of Good players
> can win it.
ALL "good players" can win.
>
> 3. Easy Level plays fast and is easy to win.
Easy to win, yes. Plays fast, no.
>
> 4. Beginner Level is for beginner like me it is quite fast making
> moves in 10 sec/ move.
In your dreams. Please show a complete game, with accurate move times.
>
> Players who will try higher levels will have to loose now, as the game
> will take full advantage of it's each move. It thinks to higher depth
> So no more easy captures possible.
>
> Here is game between Chess_Freak and Master Level at GetClub.com
> Chess.
>
Please show move times...
--
Kenneth Sloan [email protected]
Computer and Information Sciences +1-205-932-2213
University of Alabama at Birmingham FAX +1-205-934-5473
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170 http://www.cis.uab.edu/sloan/
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