Great Sacrificial Game (that was never played)

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Date: 21 May 2005 20:38:55
From: DDEckerslyke
Subject: Great Sacrificial Game (that was never played)

The following came up as a variation in a recent game in one of our club
matches. I thought it was really spectacular. Two reasons for posting it
here. One, just to share it, the other to ask if anyone in these NGs knows
whether this game has actually been played. It looks uncannily like
something from the 19th Century but I can't find it at chesslab.com or
chessgames.com. I was wondering if Black had booked up and not quite
remembered his homework.

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e4 Bc5 5. Nxe5 Bxf2+ 6. Kxf2 Nxe5 7. d4
Nfg4+ 8. Kg3 Qf6 9. dxe5 Qf2+ 10. Kxg4 d5+ 11. Kh5 h6 12. g3 g6+ 13. Kh4
g5+ 14. Kh5 Qb6 heading for g6 and mate is unavoidable

A truly great game, but it was never played! In the actual game Black lost -
can you guess where he went wrong? It's painful to consider.

cheers

dd

Date: 24 May 2005 20:39:32
From: sathyashrayan
Subject: Re: Great Sacrificial Game (that was never played)

"DDEckerslyke" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> The following came up as a variation in a recent game in one of our club
> matches. I thought it was really spectacular. Two reasons for posting it
> here. One, just to share it, the other to ask if anyone in these NGs knows
> whether this game has actually been played. It looks uncannily like
> something from the 19th Century but I can't find it at chesslab.com or
> chessgames.com. I was wondering if Black had booked up and not quite
> remembered his homework.
>
> 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e4 Bc5 5. Nxe5 Bxf2+ 6. Kxf2 Nxe5 7. d4
> Nfg4+ 8. Kg3 Qf6 9. dxe5 Qf2+ 10. Kxg4 d5+ 11. Kh5 h6 12. g3 g6+ 13. Kh4
> g5+ 14. Kh5 Qb6 heading for g6 and mate is unavoidable
>

White will not have problems if 9.Qd2 or 9.Qe1 was played.

--
"combination is the heart of chess"

A.Alekhine

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Date: 22 May 2005 00:57:41
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: Great Sacrificial Game (that was never played)

En/na DDEckerslyke ha escrit:

> 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e4 Bc5 5. Nxe5 Bxf2+ 6. Kxf2 Nxe5 7. d4
> Nfg4+ 8. Kg3 Qf6 9. dxe5 Qf2+ 10. Kxg4 d5+ 11. Kh5 h6 12. g3 g6+ 13. Kh4
> g5+ 14. Kh5 Qb6 heading for g6 and mate is unavoidable
>
> A truly great game, but it was never played! In the actual game Black lost -
> can you guess where he went wrong? It's painful to consider.
>
> cheers
>
> dd

Can you post the entire game and the name of players, tournament, ...?

AT

Date: 22 May 2005 00:56:08
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: Great Sacrificial Game (that was never played)

Date: 24 May 2005 14:01:47
From: bellatori
Subject: Re: Great Sacrificial Game (that was never played)

The following game used the same start
[Event "Tromsoe op-B"]
[Site "Tromsoe"]
[Date "1996.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Steinkellner, Rudolf"]
[Black "Pedersen, Johnny"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ECO "A28"]
[PlyCount "81"]
[EventDate "1996.??.??"]
[EventType "swiss"]
[EventRounds "5"]
[EventCountry "NOR"]
[Source "ChessBase"]
[SourceDate "2000.11.22"]

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e4 Bc5 5. Nxe5 Bxf2+ 6. Kxf2 Nxe5 7. d4
Nfg4+
8. Ke1 Qf6 9. Qe2 Nxc4 10. Qxg4 d6 11. Qg5 Qxg5 12. Bxg5 Nb6 13. Nb5 O-O
14.
Nxc7 Rb8 15. Be7 Bd7 16. Bxf8 Rxf8 17. Nb5 Nc8 18. Kd2 f5 19. Bc4+ Kh8 20.
exf5
a6 21. Nc3 b5 22. Bd3 g6 23. Rhf1 gxf5 24. Rf4 Ne7 25. g3 b4 26. Ne2 a5
27.
Raf1 Nd5 28. R4f2 Ne7 29. g4 Be6 30. b3 a4 31. Nc1 axb3 32. axb3 Rc8 33.
gxf5
Bf7 34. f6 Nc6 35. Bc4 d5 36. Ba6 Rc7 37. Bb5 Nxd4 38. Ba4 Rc3 39. Rf4
Rc2+ 40.
Kd3 Ne6 41. Kxc2 1-0

but closer still was the game
[Event "corr"]
[Site "corr"]
[Date "1990.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "tinho, Fernando"]
[Black "Ewald, H."]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "A28"]
[PlyCount "44"]

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e4 Bc5 5. Nxe5 Bxf2+ 6. Kxf2 Nxe5 7. d4
Nfg4+
8. Kg3 Qf6 9. dxe5 Qf2+ 10. Kxg4 d6+ 11. Kh5 g6+ 12. Kh6 Qh4+ 13. Kg7 Bg4
14.
Qd5 O-O-O 15. Qxf7 Rhe8 16. g3 Qh5 17. Bf4 Rd7 18. Qxd7+ Bxd7 19. Be2 Qh3
20.
exd6 Qe6 21. Nd5 cxd6 22. Bf3 Rg8+ 0-1

However there are 4 games in my database where White played 8 Kg1 and then
won.... so I would guess that that is where he went wrong....

Bellatori

Date: 22 May 2005 12:36:24
From: DDEckerslyke
Subject: Re: Great Sacrificial Game (that was never played)

"Antonio Torrecillas" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> En/na DDEckerslyke ha escrit:
>
> > 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e4 Bc5 5. Nxe5 Bxf2+ 6. Kxf2 Nxe5 7.
d4
> > Nfg4+ 8. Kg3 Qf6 9. dxe5 Qf2+ 10. Kxg4 d5+ 11. Kh5 h6 12. g3 g6+ 13. Kh4
> > g5+ 14. Kh5 Qb6 heading for g6 and mate is unavoidable
> >
> > A truly great game, but it was never played! In the actual game Black
lost -
> > can you guess where he went wrong? It's painful to consider.
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > dd
>
> maybe 10...d6?

Exactly!

Date: 22 May 2005 23:21:16
From: Antonio Torrecillas
Subject: Re: Great Sacrificial Game (that was never played)

En/na DDEckerslyke ha escrit:
> "Antonio Torrecillas" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>>En/na DDEckerslyke ha escrit:
>>> 1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. Nf3 Nc6 4. e4 Bc5 5. Nxe5 Bxf2+ 6. Kxf2 Nxe5
>>> 7.d4 Nfg4+ 8. Kg3 Qf6 9. dxe5 Qf2+ 10. Kxg4 d5+ 11. Kh5 h6 12. g3
>>> g6+ 13.Kh4 g5+ 14. Kh5 Qb6 heading for g6 and mate is unavoidable
>>>
>>>A truly great game, but it was never played! In the actual game Black
>>>lost - can you guess where he went wrong? It's painful to consider.
>>>
>>>cheers
>>>
>>>dd
>>
>>maybe 10...d6?
>
> Exactly!

That's the kind of move where we can no see all and the difference
between a win and a lost (two aparently similar moves) can be pure "luck".

thanks for the example,
AT