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Date: 16 Sep 2006 01:03:54
From: Sanny
Subject: GetClub "Beginner level" won 5 Games out of 6 games
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Now, Everyone is afraid playing Chess at GetClub. Games Played at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html Nomorechess is praying for a draw While others are beaten by Beginner Level itself. Only "Bobby Pfusher" May be "Bobby Fisher" is beating the Advance Level. Taylor Kingston has stopped playing thinjking he may loose 1/2 games at Master Level. Nomorechess has been already beaten once by "Easy Level". Now he is thinking of Draws. Incase you want draw finish. Try going in a situation where there is Three Fold Repetition. If it is not Possible then tell me I will ask my Programmers to finish that game. Richardby was beaten in 3 games out of four games he played with Master Level. Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html So now all of you worship me for creating such a great program for you all. However if anyone still has stones to throw at me, let me know any mistake in the game. (TK) If you make wrong move and your King gets killed then I feel it is your Mistake. Why you make a wrong move. This Months Point I was amazed to see "Beginner Level" is at the Top. It has beaten 5 Players this month. Ha Ha Ha. Am I Dreaming !!! Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 17 Sep 2006 00:42:08
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub "Beginner level" won 5 Games out of 6 games
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> > This Months Point I was amazed to see "Beginner Level" is at the Top. > > It has beaten 5 Players this month. Ha Ha Ha. Am I Dreaming !!! > > > If you "free" me, I will destroy this overblown Beginner > level and push it back to the bottom of GetClub ratings > Hell, where it belongs: > Your Game was Cancelled, So it will neither effect your Rating. You can play a new game. Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html Do not play with Master Level unless you can easily beat the Easy and Normal Level. Master Level is only for Taylor Kingston and Bob Advance Level is only for Bobby Pfusher So Other Players you have Three choices to play. 1. Beginner Lever for 80% of Players 2. Easy Level for Top 10% Players 3. Normal Level for Top 5 % Players (NomoreChess/ Bonsai/ Richardby/ likes forest) 4. Master Level for Top 2% Players (Taylor Kingston and Bob) 5. Advance Level for Top 1% Players (Bobby Pfusher) Start a game at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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Date: 16 Sep 2006 16:47:40
From: Taylor Kingston
Subject: Re: GetClub "Beginner level" won 5 Games out of 6 games
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help bot wrote: > Sanny wrote: > > > This Month among Human Player "Bobby Pfusher" is at the Top beating > > Taylor Kingston and Nomorechess both. > > Which proves I was right: any decent commercial program > can and will outperform humans vs. a weaker program, as > the better program does everything Sanny's program can do, > only much better! Greg, I hate to disillusion you, but "Bobby Pfuscher" is not a program. However, Bobby tells me that now he can't even get Sanny's program to load, let alone make a move, so it's doubtful his current game will ever be finished.
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Date: 16 Sep 2006 14:51:51
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub "Beginner level" won 5 Games out of 6 games
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Sanny wrote: > Now, Everyone is afraid playing Chess at GetClub. Hey, I have downloaded a free chess program called "Arena", and I now fear no one! ; >D > Nomorechess is praying for a draw > > While others are beaten by Beginner Level itself. > > Only "Bobby Pfusher" May be "Bobby Fisher" is beating the Advance > Level. > > Taylor Kingston has stopped playing thinjking he may loose 1/2 games at > Master Level. Nah. TK is bored from the excessive TIME it requires to beat up on your program on the higher levels. > Nomorechess has been already beaten once by "Easy Level". Now he is > thinking of Draws. Actually, I am embarassed by them. I admit I made the precise error discussed in an earlier post: taking the game lightly at the faster levels, while flipping back-and-forth between multiple browsers to fill the time while your program is thinking. *That* is why my performance against your Easy level is worse than against Advance and Master levels, which both (sometimes) play much stronger chess, looking far deeper. It was careless of me to take that approach. > Incase you want draw finish. Try going in a situation where there is > Three Fold Repetition. Been there, done that. I repeated the exact same position(s) over and over, 'till my head hurt from all the calculations. Your program doesn't seem to want to sacrifice ANY material in pursuit of a possible win, so it goes back and forth, repeating the same positions. > If it is not Possible then tell me I will ask my > Programmers to finish that game. > > Richardby was beaten in 3 games out of four games he played with Master > Level. Richerby is a weak player, as shown in the game posted here where he dropped material repeatedly in a single game. Or maybe he was just having a bad-hair day? > Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html > > So now all of you worship me for creating such a great program for you > all. However if anyone still has stones to throw at me, let me know any > mistake in the game. One such problem is the site's failure to account for draws. Draws are supposed to be scored as a half-point for the winner, a half-point for the loser. The ratings are supposed to penalise the higher-rated player for allowing the lower-rated one to draw him. This penalty should amount to half of a loss to the same player, perhaps. The same thing applies in reverse. Drawing repeatedly will eventually result in nearly identical ratings, as in the famous Kasparov vs. Karpov athons. > (TK) If you make wrong move and your King gets killed then I feel it is > your Mistake. Why you make a wrong move. TK has apparently stopped playing your program altogether. Nimzowitch called this kind of thing "overprotection". The weakness of an overinflated rating (we all know he is nowhere near 1300 in real life) is secured against all threats by non- participation; all threats except ratings inflation, that is! This is his Achilles heel, and I expect to blow past him once I am freed from Limbo. > This Months Point I was amazed to see "Beginner Level" is at the Top. > It has beaten 5 Players this month. Ha Ha Ha. Am I Dreaming !!! If you "free" me, I will destroy this overblown Beginner level and push it back to the bottom of GetClub ratings Hell, where it belongs: Take this heinous Beginner; let it never be a winner. Against me it will only blunder, helpless against my thunder. I shall henceforth rip it apart, tear out its puny heart. Only fear shall, it know of me; bottom-rated, forever be. -- help bot
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Date: 16 Sep 2006 14:23:31
From: help bot
Subject: Re: GetClub "Beginner level" won 5 Games out of 6 games
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Sanny wrote: > This Month among Human Player "Bobby Pfusher" is at the Top beating > Taylor Kingston and Nomorechess both. Which proves I was right: any decent commercial program can and will outperform humans vs. a weaker program, as the better program does everything Sanny's program can do, only much better! IM Innes mentioned the best of the best a while back, and his new program weighs in at somewhere around 3000 on the USCF scale. Such a program, handled properly by its human operator, is incapable of losing (ever) to Sanny's program, period. But there is still room for human error as the program must have the human "interface", so to speak, and humans are prone to error. -- help bot
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Date: 16 Sep 2006 01:16:42
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: GetClub "Beginner level" won 5 Games out of 6 games
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This Month among Human Player "Bobby Pfusher" is at the Top beating Taylor Kingston and Nomorechess both. Bye Sanny Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html
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