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Date: 09 Jul 2006 23:21:42
From: Sanny
Subject: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

Now the Chess game is playing very nice moves only thing that people
complaint is the time it takes to play a move. Now that also have been
solved.

Play a game at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Now Things Modified were

1. All Legal Moves (Nothing Illegal I hope so.)
2. Takes Less time
3. Plays better Moves.

Let me know if you find any other problem with the game and want that
to be corrected.

Beginner level plays very fast. However Good players should start with
Easy level as Beginner Level can be trapped easily.

Play a game at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

This month "nomorechess" is ahead of many players. It seems
"nomorechess" will win this months competition. He is even ahead of
Joe_Mama and likesforests. But he likes playing with lower levels. If
he plays with Higher Levels he may score higher.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 11 Jul 2006 06:09:31
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Sanny slower than a slug

> Sanny wrote:
> > For all those who think Game takes lot of time.
> >
> > Here is a RECORDED GAME between BEGINNER LEVEL and BONSAI.
> >
> >
> > All moves were made in 10 seconds. !!!!!
> >
> >
> > http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM1849&game=Chess
>
> Sanny is lying. Sanny said "All moves were made in 10 seconds. !!!!!".
> Clearly, six moves took longer than 10 seconds. Move 5 (12 sec), 6 (14
> sec), 7 (14 sec), 8 (24 sec), 9 (36 sec), and 10 (22 sec). Also note
> this is its best performance to date. David Richerby, myself, and
> others have seen much slower performance--like 40 to 60 seconds per
> move.

Yes 0nly 6 out of 28 moves took more than 10 seconds but 22 out of 28
took less than 10 seconds.

Initial 4 moves took 0 seconds to compensate for rest moves.

It is quite fast than it used to be earlier.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 11 Jul 2006 19:01:33
From: Bjoern
Subject: Re: Sanny slower than a slug

Sanny wrote:
>>Sanny wrote:
>>
>>>For all those who think Game takes lot of time.
>>>
>>>Here is a RECORDED GAME between BEGINNER LEVEL and BONSAI.
>>>
>>>
>>>All moves were made in 10 seconds. !!!!!
>>>
>>>
>>>http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM1849&game=Chess
>>
>>Sanny is lying. Sanny said "All moves were made in 10 seconds. !!!!!".
>>Clearly, six moves took longer than 10 seconds. Move 5 (12 sec), 6 (14
>>sec), 7 (14 sec), 8 (24 sec), 9 (36 sec), and 10 (22 sec). Also note
>>this is its best performance to date. David Richerby, myself, and
>>others have seen much slower performance--like 40 to 60 seconds per
>>move.
>
>
> Yes 0nly 6 out of 28 moves took more than 10 seconds but 22 out of 28
> took less than 10 seconds.
>
> Initial 4 moves took 0 seconds to compensate for rest moves.
>
> It is quite fast than it used to be earlier.

While it's faster than ealier it is still quite slow. I assume the
program's speed (being a Java program) depends on the speed of computer
of the person playing against it and possibly on the speed of the
internet connection. If that is case my computer and my internet
connection are probably not be such a good benchk, as both are quite
fast.

Date: 11 Jul 2006 01:14:43
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Sanny slower than a slug

Sanny wrote:
> For all those who think Game takes lot of time.
>
> Here is a RECORDED GAME between BEGINNER LEVEL and BONSAI.
>
>
> All moves were made in 10 seconds. !!!!!
>
>
> http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM1849&game=Chess

Sanny is lying. Sanny said "All moves were made in 10 seconds. !!!!!".
Clearly, six moves took longer than 10 seconds. Move 5 (12 sec), 6 (14
sec), 7 (14 sec), 8 (24 sec), 9 (36 sec), and 10 (22 sec). Also note
this is its best performance to date. David Richerby, myself, and
others have seen much slower performance--like 40 to 60 seconds per
move.

Date: 11 Jul 2006 01:11:37
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

For all those who think Game takes lot of time.

Here is a RECORDED GAME between BEGINNER LEVEL and BONSAI.

All moves were made in 10 seconds. !!!!!

http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM1849&game=Chess

All moves were made in 10 seconds. !!!!!

So Beginner level makes moves in 10 seconds.

However if you have slow computer or your Internet Connection is poor
then computer may take more time.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 11 Jul 2006 00:56:59
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

Sanny wrote:

> If you want even faster games (taking less than 10 seconds per move)
> then Play with Human Players.

Your game took 40 seconds per move on even the fastest level, and was
an easy win. If you want to play humans, check out www.freechess.org.

Date: 11 Jul 2006 00:29:26
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

If you want even faster games (taking less than 10 seconds per move)
then Play with Human Players.

Yesterday "Nomorechess" played with "Patidar".

Nomorechess beated Patidar with Black pieces and the game is recorded
below.

http://www.getclub.com/playgame.php?id=DM1804&game=Chess

Human Opponents can play the game at Bullet speed. You can make a move
quite fast when playing with human opponents as in this game.

In the game between "Nomorechess" and "Patidar" many moves were made in

just 2 seconds.

Bye
Sanny

Play Chess at: http://www.GetClub.com/Chess.html

Date: 10 Jul 2006 10:59:16
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

15. ... h5? Awful. Black was equal until then, and there were
reasonable alternatives. Qa5+, Nd4, and a6 all seem fine. Even Kh8 is
better. His program should be trying to remove your knight and pawn.

It plays a6 on turn 19, too late as it's about to be mated. Nice win.

David Richerby wrote:
> [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Much the same here... 15... h5 is just awful, weakening the king for
> no reason at all.
>
> [Event ""]
> [Site ""]
> [Date "2006.07.10"]
> [Round "-"]
> [White "Richerby, David"]
> [Black "Sanny's program (Beginner level)"]
> [Result "1-0"]
>
> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e6 5.c4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 Qe7 7.Nb5 Qd8
> 8.Bf4 e5 9.Bg5 Nf6 10.a3 Be7 11.Nd5 Nxd5 12.cxd5 O-O 13.Bxe7 Nxe7
> 14.d6 Nc6 15.Qg4 h5 16.Qxh5 Rb8 17.Bc4 b6 18.Rd1 Bb7 19.Rd3 a6 20.Rh3
> Qh4 21.Rxh4 axb5 22.Qh8# 1-0
>
>
> Dave.
>
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Date: 11 Jul 2006 10:49:24
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

[email protected] <[email protected] > wrote:
> David Richerby wrote:
>> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e6 5.c4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 Qe7 7.Nb5 Qd8
>> 8.Bf4 e5 9.Bg5 Nf6 10.a3 Be7 11.Nd5 Nxd5 12.cxd5 O-O 13.Bxe7 Nxe7
>> 14.d6 Nc6 15.Qg4 h5 16.Qxh5 Rb8 17.Bc4 b6 18.Rd1 Bb7 19.Rd3 a6
>> 20.Rh3 Qh4 21.Rxh4 axb5 22.Qh8# 1-0
>
> 15. ... h5? Awful. Black was equal until then

I don't think so. The pawn on d6 cripples Black's development and
gives White a nice space advantage, too.

> and there were reasonable alternatives. Qa5+, Nd4, and a6 all seem
> fine.

I think White's still better after 15... Qa5+ 16.Kd1 Nd4 17.Nxd4 exd4
or 15... Nd4 16.Nxd4 Qa5+. However, these lines suggest that 15.Qg4
was premature and I should have played 15.Nc7 Rb8 and then 16.Qg4,
with the scope of Black's queen limited. I wasn't really trying too
hard, though.

Dave.

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Date: 10 Jul 2006 03:41:07
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

I just realized the PGN had a major typo. Here's the correct version.

[Date "2006.07.10"]
[White "Sanny / 40s per move"]
[Black "likesforests"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e3 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 e6 4. Bd2 g6 5. Bd3 Ne4 6. O-O Bg7 7. Bb4 Nc6
8. Be1 O-O 9. c4 b6 10. b4 a6 11. cxd5 exd5 12. Bxe4 dxe4 13. Nfd2 Nxb4
14. Nxe4 a5 15. f3 Nd5 16. Bf2 Ba6 17. Re1 c5 18. Nbc3 Nxc3 19. Nxc3
cxd4 20. exd4 Rc8 21. Qd2 Rc4 22. Re4 f5 23. Re3 Bh6 24. Ne2 Bxe3 25.
Bxe3 Qc7 26. Bf4 Rc2 27. Bxc7 Rxd2 28. Ng3 Rf6 29. Bd8 Rd6 30. Bg5
R2xd4 31. Nh1 Rd1+ 32. Rxd1 Rxd1+ 33. Kf2 Rxh1 34. Kg3 Ra1 35. Bf4 Rxa2
36. h4 a4 37. Kh3 Rc2 38. Bg5 a3 39. Bf6 b5 40. g3 b4 41. h5 b3 42.
hxg6 hxg6 43. f4 b2 44. g4 b1=Q 45. gxf5 Qh1+ 46. Kg3 Bb7 47. fxg6 Rg2#

Date: 10 Jul 2006 03:31:43
From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

> Now Things Modified were
>
> 1. All Legal Moves (Nothing Illegal I hope so.)
> 2. Takes Less time
> 3. Plays better Moves.
>
> Beginner level plays very fast.

I played another game. On the plus side, all moves were legal and it
put up some defense. On the minus side, it's still slow and took 40s
per move instead of the advertised 10s per move. I still easily crush
the program--losing never entered my mind. I didn't have time to play
one of the slower levels.

[Date "2006.07.10"]
[White "likesforests"]
[Black "Sanny / 40sec per move"]
[Result "0-1"]

1. e3 d5 2. Nf3 Nf6 3. d4 e6 4. Bd2 g6 5. Bd3 Ne4 6. O-O Bg7 7. Bb4 Nc6
8. Be1 O-O 9. c4 b6 10. b4 a6 11. cxd5 exd5 12. Bxe4 dxe4 13. Nfd2 Nxb4
14. Nxe4 a5 15. f3 Nd5 16. Bf2 Ba6 17. Re1 c5 18. Nbc3 Nxc3 19. Nxc3
cxd4 20. exd4 Rc8 21. Qd2 Rc4 22. Re4 f5 23. Re3 Bh6 24. Ne2 Bxe3 25.
Bxe3 Qc7 26. Bf4 Rc2 27. Bxc7 Rxd2 28. Ng3 Rf6 29. Bd8 Rd6 30. Bg5
R2xd4 31. Nh1 Rd1+ 32. Rxd1 Rxd1+ 33. Kf2 Rxh1 34. Kg3 Ra1 35. Bf4 Rxa2
36. h4 a4 37. Kh3 Rc2 38. Bg5 a3 39. Bf6 b5 40. g3 b4 41. h5 b3 42.
hxg6 hxg6 43. f4 b2 44. g4 b1=Q 45. gxf5 Qh1+ 46. Kg3 Bb7 47. fxg6 Rg2#

Date: 10 Jul 2006 12:37:28
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Chess Strategy now understood properly.

[email protected] <[email protected] > wrote:
> I played another game. On the plus side, all moves were legal and it
> put up some defense. On the minus side, it's still slow and took 40s
> per move instead of the advertised 10s per move. I still easily crush
> the program--losing never entered my mind. I didn't have time to play
> one of the slower levels.

Much the same here... 15... h5 is just awful, weakening the king for
no reason at all.

[Event ""]
[Site ""]
[Date "2006.07.10"]
[Round "-"]
[White "Richerby, David"]
[Black "Sanny's program (Beginner level)"]
[Result "1-0"]

1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e6 5.c4 Bb4+ 6.Nc3 Qe7 7.Nb5 Qd8
8.Bf4 e5 9.Bg5 Nf6 10.a3 Be7 11.Nd5 Nxd5 12.cxd5 O-O 13.Bxe7 Nxe7
14.d6 Nc6 15.Qg4 h5 16.Qxh5 Rb8 17.Bc4 b6 18.Rd1 Bb7 19.Rd3 a6 20.Rh3
Qh4 21.Rxh4 axb5 22.Qh8# 1-0

Dave.

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