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Date: 10 Apr 2006 14:38:12
From: Ken Lovering
Subject: Centre Game Results!
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Well guyz..........he played exactly, almost, what I expected him to play!
The almost: he played Bd3 on his 8th move, instead of b4. He saved that for
his 10th move.
So........I'm out of "book" on the 8th, trying to figure out how not to
waste a move with d6, when I know I might have to play d5, while at the same
time doing something useful.
1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. c3 dxc3 5. Nxc3 Ne7 6. Qd4 Bxc3+ 7. Qxc3
O-O 8. Bd3 Nbc6
Fritz likes my 8th move, giving Black the slight nod at .17 at 18ply. This
is compared to White's adv of .20 after 1.e4 e5, so it's obvious, I think,
that White's idea for a game plan in this line can be nullified with proper
play.
9. O-O Qe8
Here, I should have played d6 according to Fritz, with Ng6 as his 2nd
choice. I, being on my own now, didn't want to play d6, and then later have
to play d5, and, remembered that Black needs his Queen on e8 in a lot of the
different variations.....
Anyways.......Qe8 is a bad move, in fact, it's a terrible move, giving White
a .66 advantage at 15 ply, recommending 10.b4, and the RED light comes on,
indicating that Black really screwed up :(
10. b4 (White plays Fritz's recommendation and I play what I think is the
nullifying move) d5
Of course, that move also sucks..........Fritz recommended 10....a6, which I
had considered, however, I thought that if White played b5, he would be
over-extending his pawn. I could play Nd8 and then later bring it to e6, or,
f7-h6.
Fritz, however, thinks I'm a patzer and gives White a 1.11 advantage,
recommending 11. b5 for White. His 2nd recommendation is Bb2, with a .92
advantage at 15 ply.
Note: I have a 3.2Ghz Pentium IV with 1GB cache & 1GB of ram, however, it
takes up to 30 minutes to get 17ply deep in complicated openings and I don't
want to wait right now.
11. Bb2 f6
Fritz now recommends 12. b5 for White and gives him a .93 advantage at 15
ply.
We now have a very familiar position to me. The only difference between the
game position and the analysis I had worked out with Fritz, that gave me at
least an even game was:
I've played Nc6 instead of Bg4 and my Queen is on e8 instead of d8.
So.........I think I'm ok, as I think my plan of what to do with my Knight
on c6 if White plays b5, is a good one.
12. Rfe1 Qf7 13. a3 Bg4
After White's 13th move, the game is even and Fritz is telling me to play
13....dxe4.
13.... Bg4 I'm thinking White will drop his Bishop to c2, in case I take
his f3 Knight. I'll take the Knight, exchange center pawns, play Ng6 and the
game will be pretty much level with me up a pawn.
Well..........if White had played 14.Bc2 Bxf3 15.Qxf3 de 16.Qxe4 Bg6, Fritz
gives White a .88 advantage and is telling him once again to play b5 :)
14.Re3
White now makes his 1st BIG mistake. Fritz turns on the RED light, hates
White's 14th move, giving me a .50 advantage and recommends that I play
14....Rad8. I play his 2nd choice, which only gives me a .25 advantage.
14....Bxf3 15. Rxf3 Ne5 16. Rg3 Nxd3 17. Qxd3 dxe4 18. Qxe4
I actually make some good moves Fritz thinks.............and I've got a .64
advantage with him recommending Rad8 & his 2nd choice is c6, which is what I
played.
18....c6 19. Re1 Nd5 Fritz loves my 19th move, and I've got a 1.16
advantage. I could "feel" things going my way at this point.
20.Rh3 Qg6 21. Qb1
If you want to test your tactical skills............set up the board with
this position and find the best move for Black.
21....Qxb1 Me, I'm just looking to get into the endgame with my extra pawn
and play this immediately.
Yes Sir, boyz & girlz............I spend 4 days
preparing..........well.........that isn't all I did, but I didn't spend
much of any time playing blitz or other games........just studied the lines,
my book on tactics (The Art of Attack in Chess by Vucovik) and watched the
Masters Tournament. In any event, I've seen many a line where White can fall
into tactical traps...... it's so hard for White to push his line into a
win...........and when the game is ripe, I RUSH. I figure I've got the extra
pawn and will get the open files with my rooks 1st, so it's all me in the
endgame............problem is............as you'll see if you look at the
rest of the game...........I don't study the endgame and threw away the
game.
22. Rxb1 Rad8 23. Rg3
Even here, after having thrown away a win on move 21, I still have a 1.66
advantage at 15ply. That's enough to win folks.
Nf4 24. Rg4 Nd5
However, after that stupid exercise, the game is dead even. :(
25. h4
However! After that major blunder, I again have a 1.61 advantage. :)
25.....Rfe8 26.Rd1 a6 27. Rg3
I'm heading in the right direction folks! Fritz is giving me a 2.05
advantage! After my calamity of errors, I've still got a won
game..............
27.....Re2
This reduces my edge to .40...............Like I said.........I don't study
endings, and, all I know: A rook on the 7th is heaven.
I was suppose to play 27..........Kf7
28. Bxf6 Rd7
I saw this pin, the whole time, from the beginning, when it 1st appeared. I
knew it was there............mental lapse. I had actually thought of playing
Re2 earlier and remembered that I was pinned and that I couldn't, but then I
forgot all that.
The rest of the game is an exercise in futility on my part, as I don't know
how to play the endgame..........so why did I strive to get to the endgame
with my extra pawn?...............who knows.....................
Guess what I'll be studying now.................
29. Bd4 Rde7 30. Rf3 Re1+ 31. Rxe1 Rxe1+ 32.Kh2 Re4 33. Bc5 Nf6 34. g3 Kf7
35. Kh3 Ke6 36. Rd3 Nd5 37. f3 Re2 38. Bd4Nf6 39. f4 g6 40. Bxf6 Kxf6 41.
Rd7 Re7 42. Rd3 Re2 43. g4 h5 44. gxh5 gxh545. Kg3 Re7 46. Rc3 Rd7 47. Re3
Rg7+ 48. Kh3 Rg4 49. Re5 Kg6 50. Rg5+ Rxg551. fxg5 b6 52. Kg3 {Black
resigns} 1-0
Ken
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Date: 10 Apr 2006 20:08:45
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Centre Game Results!
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In article <[email protected] >,
"Ken Lovering" <[email protected] > wrote:
>
> 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. c3 dxc3 5. Nxc3 Ne7 6. Qd4 Bxc3+ 7. Qxc3
> O-O 8. Bd3 Nbc6
>
> Fritz likes my 8th move, giving Black the slight nod at .17 at 18ply. This
> is compared to White's adv of .20 after 1.e4 e5, so it's obvious, I think,
> that White's idea for a game plan in this line can be nullified with proper
> play.
Again, I think you're not really understanding how Fritz works. Black's
up a pawn. With most computers, if you're up matrial but NOT up almost
that much "pointwise" in their evaluation, then you should assume your
opponent has major compensation.
> 9. O-O Qe8
>
> Here, I should have played d6 according to Fritz, with Ng6 as his 2nd
> choice. I, being on my own now, didn't want to play d6, and then later have
> to play d5, and, remembered that Black needs his Queen on e8 in a lot of the
> different variations.....
> Anyways.......Qe8 is a bad move, in fact, it's a terrible move, giving White
> a .66 advantage at 15 ply, recommending 10.b4, and the RED light comes on,
> indicating that Black really screwed up :(
This is why understanding is important. What value does the queen play
on e8? What's your plan? Since you're commited to defending the gambit,
what do you see as white's threats.
You need to be finishing your development and restrain the e5 thrust.
This move accomplishes neither of those goals.
You'll notice that the moment you think of your strategic goals, Fritz's
best moves suggest themselves: Ng6 and d6 both protect e5. d6 also helps
you finish your development - no wonder it's Fritz's favorite move. You
don't need Fritz to help you find these moves.
> 10. b4 (White plays Fritz's recommendation and I play what I think is the
> nullifying move) d5
>
> Of course, that move also sucks..........Fritz recommended 10....a6, which I
> had considered, however, I thought that if White played b5, he would be
> over-extending his pawn. I could play Nd8 and then later bring it to e6, or,
> f7-h6.
Again, basic principles are at work here. White has the bishop pair and
better development. A move like d5 opens up the position. Is that a good
thing to do when your development is inferior and your opponent has the
bishops?
> Fritz, however, thinks I'm a patzer and gives White a 1.11 advantage,
> recommending 11. b5 for White. His 2nd recommendation is Bb2, with a .92
> advantage at 15 ply.
You need to think about what's going on in the position, not what Fritz
thinks is going to be best 15 moves from now.
> 11. Bb2 f6
>
> Fritz now recommends 12. b5 for White and gives him a .93 advantage at 15
> ply.
>
> We now have a very familiar position to me. The only difference between the
> game position and the analysis I had worked out with Fritz, that gave me at
> least an even game was:
> I've played Nc6 instead of Bg4 and my Queen is on e8 instead of d8.
> So.........I think I'm ok, as I think my plan of what to do with my Knight
> on c6 if White plays b5, is a good one.
I disagree. On b5, your position runs the risk of falling apart very
quickly. White gets his pawn back and is much more active. Missing this
is a major blunder, and suggests your opponent didn't really get very
deep into why he was playing b4 to begin with.
> 12. Rfe1 Qf7 13. a3 Bg4
>
> After White's 13th move, the game is even and Fritz is telling me to play
> 13....dxe4.
White's 13th move is dumb. b5 still wins a pawn without squandering his
positional advantage.
>
> 13.... Bg4 I'm thinking White will drop his Bishop to c2, in case I take
> his f3 Knight. I'll take the Knight, exchange center pawns, play Ng6 and the
> game will be pretty much level with me up a pawn.
>
> Well..........if White had played 14.Bc2 Bxf3 15.Qxf3 de 16.Qxe4 Bg6, Fritz
> gives White a .88 advantage and is telling him once again to play b5 :)
>
> 14.Re3
>
> White now makes his 1st BIG mistake. Fritz turns on the RED light, hates
> White's 14th move, giving me a .50 advantage and recommends that I play
> 14....Rad8. I play his 2nd choice, which only gives me a .25 advantage.
>
> 14....Bxf3 15. Rxf3 Ne5 16. Rg3 Nxd3 17. Qxd3 dxe4 18. Qxe4
>
> I actually make some good moves Fritz thinks.............and I've got a .64
> advantage with him recommending Rad8 & his 2nd choice is c6, which is what I
> played.
I'm not sure that I like your 17th. If he makes that trade, your knight
gets centralized.
> 18....c6 19. Re1 Nd5 Fritz loves my 19th move, and I've got a 1.16
> advantage. I could "feel" things going my way at this point.
You should. You've got a nice, strong central post for your knight, from
which is can never be evicted. It has the potential to be the equal of
the bishop on this square.
> 20.Rh3 Qg6 21. Qb1
>
> If you want to test your tactical skills............set up the board with
> this position and find the best move for Black.
21. Qb1 is just a lousy move.
I'm going to guess that the best move here is Nf4. Lemme check. Yup. 21.
Nf4 22.Rg3 Qxb1 23.Rxb1 Ne2+.
Moves like Nf4 should leap out at you. That's such a strong square for
the knight, and here you attack the rook and threaten mate at the same
time. Sure, you've got to stop and calculate a bit, but this should be
within your calculating abilities.
> 21....Qxb1 Me, I'm just looking to get into the endgame with my extra pawn
> and play this immediately.
> In any event, I've seen many a line where White can fall
> into tactical traps...... it's so hard for White to push his line into a
> win...........and when the game is ripe, I RUSH.
Well, again, I think you're being overoptimistic. b5 on either his 12th
or 13th move is strong for white. Don't be blinded by the fact that you
achieved a winning position in this game.
> I figure I've got the extra
> pawn and will get the open files with my rooks 1st, so it's all me in the
> endgame............problem is............as you'll see if you look at the
> rest of the game...........I don't study the endgame and threw away the
> game.
>
> 22. Rxb1 Rad8 23. Rg3
>
> Even here, after having thrown away a win on move 21, I still have a 1.66
> advantage at 15ply. That's enough to win folks.
>
> Nf4 24. Rg4 Nd5
>
> However, after that stupid exercise, the game is dead even. :(
>
> 25. h4
>
> However! After that major blunder, I again have a 1.61 advantage. :)
I hate the way you're keeping score with Fritz here. This is not
productive. What matters is NOT what fritz things, but if you understand
your plan and how to execute it.
> 25.....Rfe8 26.Rd1 a6 27. Rg3
>
> I'm heading in the right direction folks! Fritz is giving me a 2.05
> advantage! After my calamity of errors, I've still got a won
> game..............
But you're not REALLY heading in the right direction, because you're
flailing around aimlessly.
> 27.....Re2
>
> This reduces my edge to .40...............Like I said.........I don't study
> endings, and, all I know: A rook on the 7th is heaven.
> I was suppose to play 27..........Kf7
You SHOULD study endings, but this is just tactics, plain and simple.
Avoidable tactics: the kind of thing Fritz doesn't pay much attention to
because it ALWAYS sees.
This is, in fact, EXACTLY the sort of thing I was warning you about.
White has persistent pressure along the long diagonal and the g-file.
Again, I don't think these things SHOULD amount to anything, but in
games between folks like us, they do. All the time.
Because you were focusing so much in your prep on what Fritz things,
you never stopped to talk to yourself about what was really happening.
Using words like "pressure along the long-diagonal and on the g-file"
rather than "Fritz likes ..."
> 28. Bxf6 Rd7
>
> I saw this pin, the whole time, from the beginning, when it 1st appeared. I
> knew it was there............mental lapse. I had actually thought of playing
> Re2 earlier and remembered that I was pinned and that I couldn't, but then I
> forgot all that.
>
> The rest of the game is an exercise in futility on my part, as I don't know
> how to play the endgame..........so why did I strive to get to the endgame
> with my extra pawn?...............who knows.....................
>
> Guess what I'll be studying now.................
You need to drill on basic tactics. Get a program like CT-Art. Yes you
need to study endings, sure, but the fact is that this ending is
unfavorable for black in any case. Why? Because the center is wide open,
there are pawns on both sides of the board, and white has a bishop v a
knight (thanks to your decision on move 2.)
> 29. Bd4 Rde7 30. Rf3 Re1+ 31. Rxe1 Rxe1+ 32.Kh2 Re4 33. Bc5 Nf6 34. g3 Kf7
> 35. Kh3 Ke6 36. Rd3 Nd5 37. f3 Re2 38. Bd4Nf6 39. f4 g6 40. Bxf6 Kxf6 41.
> Rd7 Re7 42. Rd3 Re2 43. g4 h5 44. gxh5 gxh545. Kg3 Re7 46. Rc3 Rd7 47. Re3
> Rg7+ 48. Kh3 Rg4 49. Re5 Kg6 50. Rg5+ Rxg551. fxg5 b6 52. Kg3 {Black
> resigns} 1-0
>
> Ken
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Date: 10 Apr 2006 23:32:51
From: Ken Lovering
Subject: Re: Centre Game Results!
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Ron,
Thanks for your notes. I made some replies. But most important: Where can I
get that CT-Art?
Thanks,
Ken
"Ron" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article <[email protected]>,
> "Ken Lovering" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > 1. e4 e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Nf3 Bb4+ 4. c3 dxc3 5. Nxc3 Ne7 6. Qd4 Bxc3+ 7.
Qxc3
> > O-O 8. Bd3 Nbc6
> >
> > Fritz likes my 8th move, giving Black the slight nod at .17 at 18ply.
This
> > is compared to White's adv of .20 after 1.e4 e5, so it's obvious, I
think,
> > that White's idea for a game plan in this line can be nullified with
proper
> > play.
>
> Again, I think you're not really understanding how Fritz works. Black's
> up a pawn. With most computers, if you're up matrial but NOT up almost
> that much "pointwise" in their evaluation, then you should assume your
> opponent has major compensation.
I understand that. I was of the belief, however, that if 1.e4,e5, gives
White a .20 advantage, and after White gambits a pawn and we're on the 10th
move and Black has a .20 advantage, then White, has .60 compensation for his
lost pawn. A .60 advantage is nothing more than the initiative I thought.
>
> > 9. O-O Qe8
> >
> > Here, I should have played d6 according to Fritz, with Ng6 as his 2nd
> > choice. I, being on my own now, didn't want to play d6, and then later
have
> > to play d5, and, remembered that Black needs his Queen on e8 in a lot of
the
> > different variations.....
> > Anyways.......Qe8 is a bad move, in fact, it's a terrible move, giving
White
> > a .66 advantage at 15 ply, recommending 10.b4, and the RED light comes
on,
> > indicating that Black really screwed up :(
>
> This is why understanding is important. What value does the queen play
> on e8? What's your plan? Since you're commited to defending the gambit,
> what do you see as white's threats.
>
> You need to be finishing your development and restrain the e5 thrust.
> This move accomplishes neither of those goals.
I couldn't agree with you more. It was a useless move, however, I thought it
was useful. I had a thought, as wrong as it was.
I am going to be putting a knight on g6, that the bishop on d3 could take,
wrecking my pawn structure, if my Queen isn't on e8. Plus, I may be putting
a bishop on f7 or e6, where the Queen on e8 is useful to back it up.
All bad thinking, but there was thinking behind the move. Just bad thinking.
>
> You'll notice that the moment you think of your strategic goals, Fritz's
> best moves suggest themselves: Ng6 and d6 both protect e5. d6 also helps
> you finish your development - no wonder it's Fritz's favorite move. You
> don't need Fritz to help you find these moves.
I saw those moves. Again, I was stuck on the d5 idea.
>
> > 10. b4 (White plays Fritz's recommendation and I play what I think is
the
> > nullifying move) d5
> >
> > Of course, that move also sucks..........Fritz recommended 10....a6,
which I
> > had considered, however, I thought that if White played b5, he would be
> > over-extending his pawn. I could play Nd8 and then later bring it to e6,
or,
> > f7-h6.
>
> Again, basic principles are at work here. White has the bishop pair and
> better development. A move like d5 opens up the position. Is that a good
> thing to do when your development is inferior and your opponent has the
> bishops?
White cannot take the d-pawn. For instance 11.exd5 Nxd5 12. Bxh7 Kxh7
13.Qd3+ Kg7 14.Qxd5 Qe6 and Fritz has the game as even. However, it would be
so much better if I had not moved my Queen to e8 and just played d6 or Ng6.
>
> > Fritz, however, thinks I'm a patzer and gives White a 1.11 advantage,
> > recommending 11. b5 for White. His 2nd recommendation is Bb2, with a .92
> > advantage at 15 ply.
>
> You need to think about what's going on in the position, not what Fritz
> thinks is going to be best 15 moves from now.
That's how I use Fritz as my Coach............he'll say that 17ply deep,
White has a .75 advantage. I'll study the position from the Black side, and
play (after having copied Fritz's analysis to the scoreboard, which by the
way, I have covered up so that I can only see the ply depth and +/-
advantage.
Fritz then crushes me and I learn something about the position.
I make notes in Chessbase as to why White is making the moves he does and
why Black needs to reply a certain way, based on my attempts to challenge
Fritz and move on into the game.
My "visualization" is poor. It's improved a lot over the last 4 months with
all the studying I've been doing, however, at 51 years old, I don't know how
good it will get. I'm exercising a lot now :) that should help quite a bit
also.
> > 11. Bb2 f6
> >
> > Fritz now recommends 12. b5 for White and gives him a .93 advantage at
15
> > ply.
> >
> > We now have a very familiar position to me. The only difference between
the
> > game position and the analysis I had worked out with Fritz, that gave me
at
> > least an even game was:
> > I've played Nc6 instead of Bg4 and my Queen is on e8 instead of d8.
> > So.........I think I'm ok, as I think my plan of what to do with my
Knight
> > on c6 if White plays b5, is a good one.
>
> I disagree. On b5, your position runs the risk of falling apart very
> quickly. White gets his pawn back and is much more active. Missing this
> is a major blunder, and suggests your opponent didn't really get very
> deep into why he was playing b4 to begin with.
I agree with you. I'm only stating what I thought over the board. And,
you're right: White didn't understand the position much, if any, better than
I. That is the only reason I was able to have a chance. I missed the fact
that after b5 Nd8 White can play Qxc7.............
Again.............Qe8 really sucked.
>
> > 12. Rfe1 Qf7 13. a3 Bg4
> >
> > After White's 13th move, the game is even and Fritz is telling me to
play
> > 13....dxe4.
>
> White's 13th move is dumb. b5 still wins a pawn without squandering his
> positional advantage.
No doubt. I'm crushed if he just takes a moment to realize he wins the
c-pawn.
>
> >
> > 13.... Bg4 I'm thinking White will drop his Bishop to c2, in case I
take
> > his f3 Knight. I'll take the Knight, exchange center pawns, play Ng6 and
the
> > game will be pretty much level with me up a pawn.
> >
> > Well..........if White had played 14.Bc2 Bxf3 15.Qxf3 de 16.Qxe4 Bg6,
Fritz
> > gives White a .88 advantage and is telling him once again to play b5 :)
> >
> > 14.Re3
> >
> > White now makes his 1st BIG mistake. Fritz turns on the RED light, hates
> > White's 14th move, giving me a .50 advantage and recommends that I play
> > 14....Rad8. I play his 2nd choice, which only gives me a .25 advantage.
> >
> > 14....Bxf3 15. Rxf3 Ne5 16. Rg3 Nxd3 17. Qxd3 dxe4 18. Qxe4
> >
> > I actually make some good moves Fritz thinks.............and I've got a
.64
> > advantage with him recommending Rad8 & his 2nd choice is c6, which is
what I
> > played.
>
> I'm not sure that I like your 17th. If he makes that trade, your knight
> gets centralized.
Correct. Rad8 was the move I should have made.
>
> > 18....c6 19. Re1 Nd5 Fritz loves my 19th move, and I've got a 1.16
> > advantage. I could "feel" things going my way at this point.
>
> You should. You've got a nice, strong central post for your knight, from
> which is can never be evicted. It has the potential to be the equal of
> the bishop on this square.
I was loving life here. I thought I had a really good position.
>
> > 20.Rh3 Qg6 21. Qb1
> >
> > If you want to test your tactical skills............set up the board
with
> > this position and find the best move for Black.
>
> 21. Qb1 is just a lousy move.
>
> I'm going to guess that the best move here is Nf4. Lemme check. Yup. 21.
> Nf4 22.Rg3 Qxb1 23.Rxb1 Ne2+.
>
> Moves like Nf4 should leap out at you. That's such a strong square for
> the knight, and here you attack the rook and threaten mate at the same
> time. Sure, you've got to stop and calculate a bit, but this should be
> within your calculating abilities.
We were going over a teammates game earlier this week. His opponent made a
capture and he immediately took back, not taking the time to realize he had
a strong in-between move. I told him and the other teammate who was
kibitzing, how I often make the obvious reply, without taking the time to
look at the board.
I'll bet it didn't take me 3 seconds to take his Queen after he played Qb1.
>
> > 21....Qxb1 Me, I'm just looking to get into the endgame with my extra
pawn
> > and play this immediately.
>
> > In any event, I've seen many a line where White can fall
> > into tactical traps...... it's so hard for White to push his line into a
> > win...........and when the game is ripe, I RUSH.
>
> Well, again, I think you're being overoptimistic. b5 on either his 12th
> or 13th move is strong for white. Don't be blinded by the fact that you
> achieved a winning position in this game.
Absolutely not. I only had a winning position later on, due to the fact that
I was playing a 1600 player, who is also capable of making mistakes. The
point I'm making, is that, despite my weak play, the fact that I had
prepared for this opening and had gone over the ideas, is what made it
possible for me to last as long as I did.
>
> > I figure I've got the extra
> > pawn and will get the open files with my rooks 1st, so it's all me in
the
> > endgame............problem is............as you'll see if you look at
the
> > rest of the game...........I don't study the endgame and threw away the
> > game.
> >
> > 22. Rxb1 Rad8 23. Rg3
> >
> > Even here, after having thrown away a win on move 21, I still have a
1.66
> > advantage at 15ply. That's enough to win folks.
> >
> > Nf4 24. Rg4 Nd5
> >
> > However, after that stupid exercise, the game is dead even. :(
> >
> > 25. h4
> >
> > However! After that major blunder, I again have a 1.61 advantage. :)
>
> I hate the way you're keeping score with Fritz here. This is not
> productive. What matters is NOT what fritz things, but if you understand
> your plan and how to execute it.
>
> > 25.....Rfe8 26.Rd1 a6 27. Rg3
> >
> > I'm heading in the right direction folks! Fritz is giving me a 2.05
> > advantage! After my calamity of errors, I've still got a won
> > game..............
>
> But you're not REALLY heading in the right direction, because you're
> flailing around aimlessly.
Well, no, I have to disagree. Other than the stupid Nf4 move, I've got the
open files. a6 was played prophylactically, to protect agains a possible
Bd4. I know I should have my pawns on the same color as his bishop, however,
I was concerned I wouldn't be able to protect them and maintain activity
with my pieces.
>
> > 27.....Re2
> >
> > This reduces my edge to .40...............Like I said.........I don't
study
> > endings, and, all I know: A rook on the 7th is heaven.
> > I was suppose to play 27..........Kf7
>
> You SHOULD study endings, but this is just tactics, plain and simple.
> Avoidable tactics: the kind of thing Fritz doesn't pay much attention to
> because it ALWAYS sees.
>
> This is, in fact, EXACTLY the sort of thing I was warning you about.
> White has persistent pressure along the long diagonal and the g-file.
> Again, I don't think these things SHOULD amount to anything, but in
> games between folks like us, they do. All the time.
>
> Because you were focusing so much in your prep on what Fritz things,
> you never stopped to talk to yourself about what was really happening.
> Using words like "pressure along the long-diagonal and on the g-file"
> rather than "Fritz likes ..."
I hear you :)
>
> > 28. Bxf6 Rd7
> >
> > I saw this pin, the whole time, from the beginning, when it 1st
appeared. I
> > knew it was there............mental lapse. I had actually thought of
playing
> > Re2 earlier and remembered that I was pinned and that I couldn't, but
then I
> > forgot all that.
> >
> > The rest of the game is an exercise in futility on my part, as I don't
know
> > how to play the endgame..........so why did I strive to get to the
endgame
> > with my extra pawn?...............who knows.....................
> >
> > Guess what I'll be studying now.................
>
> You need to drill on basic tactics. Get a program like CT-Art. Yes you
> need to study endings, sure, but the fact is that this ending is
> unfavorable for black in any case. Why? Because the center is wide open,
> there are pawns on both sides of the board, and white has a bishop v a
> knight (thanks to your decision on move 2.)
>
> > 29. Bd4 Rde7 30. Rf3 Re1+ 31. Rxe1 Rxe1+ 32.Kh2 Re4 33. Bc5 Nf6 34. g3
Kf7
> > 35. Kh3 Ke6 36. Rd3 Nd5 37. f3 Re2 38. Bd4Nf6 39. f4 g6 40. Bxf6 Kxf6
41.
> > Rd7 Re7 42. Rd3 Re2 43. g4 h5 44. gxh5 gxh545. Kg3 Re7 46. Rc3 Rd7 47.
Re3
> > Rg7+ 48. Kh3 Rg4 49. Re5 Kg6 50. Rg5+ Rxg551. fxg5 b6 52. Kg3 {Black
> > resigns} 1-0
> >
> > Ken
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Date: 11 Apr 2006 07:20:43
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Centre Game Results!
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In article <[email protected] >,
"Ken Lovering" <[email protected] > wrote:
> I understand that. I was of the belief, however, that if 1.e4,e5, gives
> White a .20 advantage, and after White gambits a pawn and we're on the 10th
> move and Black has a .20 advantage, then White, has .60 compensation for his
> lost pawn. A .60 advantage is nothing more than the initiative I thought.
Naw. Not really. Well, some of the computer programs are better at
judging those unbalanced positions than others, but Fritz is, I believe,
fairly materialistic.
My experience is really that most computers' scores underestimate the
value of a sound gambit. Computers don't play gambits - they only
sacrifice material when they expect to get it back. They don't "think
that way," and are thus very, very poor judges of gambits with long-term
consequences.
They're great when you need one or two moves to stifle your opponents
initiative.
> I couldn't agree with you more. It was a useless move, however, I thought it
> was useful. I had a thought, as wrong as it was.
> I am going to be putting a knight on g6, that the bishop on d3 could take,
> wrecking my pawn structure, if my Queen isn't on e8. Plus, I may be putting
> a bishop on f7 or e6, where the Queen on e8 is useful to back it up.
> All bad thinking, but there was thinking behind the move. Just bad thinking.
Just as an aside, after Ng6 and an eventual Bxg6, hxg6 doesn't "wreck
your pawn structure." That's still a very defensible position. (It's
weird to me that you are so unwilling to do that, but are fine with
...f6; the open a2-g8 diagonal is one of those things that crops up in
puzzles all the time.)
>
> White cannot take the d-pawn. For instance 11.exd5 Nxd5 12. Bxh7 Kxh7
> 13.Qd3+ Kg7 14.Qxd5 Qe6 and Fritz has the game as even. However, it would be
> so much better if I had not moved my Queen to e8 and just played d6 or Ng6.
I'm not so much worried about taking the d-pawn now, the point, rather,
is that exd is going to be on the board for a long time - you're always
going to have to worry about it and now moves like Ng6 are less
appealing.
> > I'm going to guess that the best move here is Nf4. Lemme check. Yup. 21.
> > Nf4 22.Rg3 Qxb1 23.Rxb1 Ne2+.
> >
> > Moves like Nf4 should leap out at you. That's such a strong square for
> > the knight, and here you attack the rook and threaten mate at the same
> > time. Sure, you've got to stop and calculate a bit, but this should be
> > within your calculating abilities.
>
> We were going over a teammates game earlier this week. His opponent made a
> capture and he immediately took back, not taking the time to realize he had
> a strong in-between move. I told him and the other teammate who was
> kibitzing, how I often make the obvious reply, without taking the time to
> look at the board.
>
> I'll bet it didn't take me 3 seconds to take his Queen after he played Qb1.
You should always look at every move which forces a reply.
> >
> > > 25.....Rfe8 26.Rd1 a6 27. Rg3
> > >
> > > I'm heading in the right direction folks! Fritz is giving me a 2.05
> > > advantage! After my calamity of errors, I've still got a won
> > > game..............
> >
> > But you're not REALLY heading in the right direction, because you're
> > flailing around aimlessly.
>
> Well, no, I have to disagree. Other than the stupid Nf4 move, I've got the
> open files. a6 was played prophylactically, to protect agains a possible
> Bd4. I know I should have my pawns on the same color as his bishop, however,
> I was concerned I wouldn't be able to protect them and maintain activity
> with my pieces.
I guess my point here is that I don't see what your plan is. I guess you
wanted to double-rooks on the e-file (not a bad idea, mind you, if you
can do it without tactical problems.)
I think I got CT-Art from Amazon.com, although you may be able to buy it
directly from convetka. It's a great piece of drilling software.
-Ron
-Ron
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