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Date: 23 Nov 2004 07:02:00
From: Rhoney
Subject: Backward Pawn in the Sicillian
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1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5. Nb5 5.d6
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.xx(other than 6.Bg5 or 6.Bc4) e5
What is black's compensation for accepting this pawn structure weakness?
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Date: 29 Nov 2004 20:44:48
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Backward Pawn in the Sicillian
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> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5. Nb5 5.d6
6. c4 and say hello to the oczy bind.
> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.xx(other than 6.Bg5 or
> 6.Bc4) e5
Key words: "other than 6. Bg5." What do you do against 6. Bg5? If e5, then
7. Bxf6 leaves White way ahead in development.
> What is black's compensation for accepting this pawn structure weakness?
Early dinner?
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Date: 30 Nov 2004 15:02:20
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Backward Pawn in the Sicillian
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Ray Gordon <[email protected] > wrote:
>> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.xx(other than 6.Bg5 or
>> 6.Bc4) e5
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> Key words: "other than 6. Bg5." What do you do against 6. Bg5? If e5,
> then 7. Bxf6 leaves White way ahead in development.
Against 6.Bg5, the main line is 6... e6. But you're right -- `other than
Bg5' are the key words: they mean that we're discussing variations where
White doesn't play Bg5.
Dave.
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Date: 01 Dec 2004 13:38:00
From: Ray Gordon
Subject: Re: Backward Pawn in the Sicillian
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>>> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.xx(other than 6.Bg5 or
>>> 6.Bc4) e5
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>> Key words: "other than 6. Bg5." What do you do against 6. Bg5? If e5,
>> then 7. Bxf6 leaves White way ahead in development.
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> Against 6.Bg5, the main line is 6... e6. But you're right -- `other than
> Bg5' are the key words: they mean that we're discussing variations where
> White doesn't play Bg5.
As long as you're prepared for 6. Bg5, it helps to be able to punish White
from deviating from the best move.
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Date: 23 Nov 2004 19:06:03
From: Ron
Subject: Re: Backward Pawn in the Sicillian
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In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] (Rhoney) wrote:
> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5. Nb5 5.d6
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> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.xx(other than 6.Bg5 or
> 6.Bc4) e5
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> What is black's compensation for accepting this pawn structure weakness?
There's no simple answer. Answers include piece activity, play against
the e4 pawn, simple and harmonious development, stability in the center
making it more difficult for white to play f2-f4, and more. Play
through a dozen games in this line and you'll lots of different things.
It's worth pointing out that the d5 square is usually more of a problem
than the d6 pawn, which is usually well defended by the dark-square
bishop (which doesn't have much else to do for a while).
-Ron
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Date: 23 Nov 2004 17:21:17
From: Richard Stanz
Subject: Re: Backward Pawn in the Sicillian
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[email protected] (Rhoney) wrote in message news:<[email protected] >...
> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5. Nb5 5.d6
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> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.xx(other than 6.Bg5 or 6.Bc4) e5
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> What is black's compensation for accepting this pawn structure weakness?
Generally -- A little more space than he normally gets in the
Sicilian, better control of the dark squares in the center and the
chance to drive White's Nd4 to a less active square (i.e., a3 or b3).
Regards,
Stanz
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Date: 23 Nov 2004 19:50:12
From: Avanti
Subject: Re: Backward Pawn in the Sicillian
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"Rhoney" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5. Nb5 5.d6
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> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.xx(other than 6.Bg5 or
6.Bc4) e5
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> What is black's compensation for accepting this pawn structure weakness?
It is only a weakness if it can be easily attacked and won.
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Date: 23 Nov 2004 19:00:17
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Backward Pawn in the Sicillian
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Rhoney <[email protected] > wrote:
> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 e5 5. Nb5 5.d6
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> 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 a6 6.xx(other than 6.Bg5 or
> 6.Bc4) e5
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> What is black's compensation for accepting this pawn structure weakness?
The executive sumy would be active piece play and preventing White from
playing e5 himself, pushing the knight off f6. I'll leave a more detailed
answer to somebody who knows more about this kind of position than I do --
I've only recently started playing ...e5, myself.
Dave.
--
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