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Date: 27 Mar 2005 22:43:57
From: Sanny
Subject: Are you prepared to break the Chess Game Records?
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A new Chess program has been made which uses better intelligence to
beat the opponent.
To Play the Game and show your skills visit:
http://www.softtanks.com/chessgame/Chess.html
It is free for anyone to play and test your Chess skills.
(See not many sites are open else you have to reload the page. So close
other webpages before playing as it will also improve the game speed.)
This Chess Game program has many levels. from Beginner to Advance
level. So you can easily progress and view online scores.
The higher level you beat the bigger score you get.
The Better option in it is that it does not allow to take back moves,
So no one can cheat it. Works without any download.
You just have to open the page and start playing in 5 seconds.
Remember you can break the records only when you win. It gives no point
if you loose a game from high level. I suggest you start from Beginner
Level or Normal Level if you are a good player. Then increase level as
you beat smaller levels.
It is a quite new game so you will enjoy a lot. Playing for hours
together.
http://www.softtanks.com/chessgame/Chess.html
To get higher scores you have to win higher levels.
Bye
Sanjay.
To Play the Game Visit :
http://www.softtanks.com/chessgame/Chess.html
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Date: 31 Mar 2005 22:59:21
From: Sanny
Subject: Re: Do not play the weak level try the Advance level if you are a good player.
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The program uses a limited memory installed for that web page. If you
have opened more webpages try closing them and the game will be fast.
I feel people are finding it easy to play only because they take
advantage of the Opening moves. At the moment the program think before
any move is made (Even the first move)
People who are good with opening get small advantage in the beginning
and win game through that advantage.
I hope if a few opening moves are learnt by the program this will
outplay expert-players in the middle game.
These days every good player plays openings by mugging up Books or by
Experience while this program thinks each move from starting.
Second version comming soon will have Opening Enabled. So it would be
much hard for strong players also.
However only 2 players out of 1000's of players were able to beat the
top 500 Score.
Bye
Sanjay.
> JA, if you want a quicker game, try it at the 600-point level, and
> play From's Gambit. The following game took maybe 3 minutes:
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> Computer-Kingston: 1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nc3?? Qh4+ 5.g3
> Bxg3+ 6.hxg3 Qxg3(mate) 7.Nf3 Qxe1, 0-1.
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> Interesting that the program does not recognize mate; it only quits
> when its king is captured.
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Date: 01 Apr 2005 10:37:40
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: Do not play the weak level try the Advance level if you are a good player.
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Sanny <[email protected] > wrote:
> People who are good with opening get small advantage in the beginning
> and win game through that advantage.
From the games against your program that have been posted here, people who
play reasonably good chess are getting crushing advantages in the opening.
They're winning in the first five or so moves.
> I hope if a few opening moves are learnt by the program this will
> outplay expert-players in the middle game.
I think you overestimate the strength of your program.
> These days every good player plays openings by mugging up Books or by
> Experience while this program thinks each move from starting.
Playing the opening from general principles (without knowing any specific
variations) shouldn't leave you with much more than a slight disadvantage.
Your program seems to get much worse positions than that.
> However only 2 players out of 1000's of players were able to beat the
> top 500 Score.
People have complained that your program just hangs -- no wonder they've
been unable to beat it. And why would anyone invest the time to play such
a weak opponent who takes twenty minutes to make a move?
Dave.
--
David Richerby Metal Dish (TM): it's like a fine
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ ceramic dish that's made of steel!
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Date: 31 Mar 2005 16:14:49
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Subject: Re: Do not play the weak level try the Advance level if you are a good player.
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Sanny wrote:
> The heighest [sic] score is 500. Let me see if you can beat this
record.
No, the highest score is now 700, though I do not claim that it is
any great accomplishment. I wonder if this applet has been programmed
for chessic suicide:
TK-Computer, 31 ch 2005: 1.d4 Nc6 2.e4 Nf6?! 3.e5 Nd5 4.c4 Ndb4
5.a3 Na6 6.b4 h6?? 7.b5 7.Rh7? 8.Bd3 8.f5?? 9.Bxf5 Rh8?? 10.Bg6# --
Mate, but again it ignored this and insisted I capture the king. --
10...Nxd4 11.Bxe8, 1-0.
And this was on its strongest level, "Heavy Tough." Again, I stress
that I hope the business planning offered by this site is better than
its chess play, otherwise whatever clients they may lure will go
bankrupt within days, if not minutes.
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Date: 31 Mar 2005 09:31:36
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Subject: Re: Do not play the weak level try the Advance level if you are a good player.
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JA wrote:
> Sanny wrote:
> > The heighest score is 500. Let me see if you can beat this record.
> I seem to be at the top of the leader board, but, sadly, that's a
> tribute to my patience rather than my chess.
JA, if you want a quicker game, try it at the 600-point level, and
play From's Gambit. The following game took maybe 3 minutes:
Computer-Kingston: 1.f4 e5 2.fxe5 d6 3.exd6 Bxd6 4.Nc3?? Qh4+ 5.g3
Bxg3+ 6.hxg3 Qxg3(mate) 7.Nf3 Qxe1, 0-1.
Interesting that the program does not recognize mate; it only quits
when its king is captured.
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Date: 31 Mar 2005 05:44:40
From:
Subject: Re: Do not play the weak level try the Advance level if you are a good player.
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Sanny wrote:
> People are playing with beginner level and complaining it makes weak
> moves. You try the Advance level and win.
I could win easily at any of its levels, if only it would let me. At
the "advance" level it's supposed to take about 5 minutes per move, but
invariably when it gets into a lost position, it just sits there,
"thinking" endlessly, even when it has very few legal moves. Example:
Computer-Kingston, 3/31/05:
1.b3 e5 2.e4 Nf6 3.f3? - What shall we call this? The Owen-Damiano
Hybrid Mistake? - 3...Nxe4! 4.fxe4?? Qh4+ 5.Ke2 Qxe4+ 6.Kf2 Bc5+ 7.Kg3
Qf4+ 8.Kh3 d5+ 9.g4 h5 10.d4 Bxg4+ - Here I missed 10...Qf2! forcing
mate in at most 5. But Black is still winning. - 11.Kg2 Qe4+ - And now
it just sat there, "thinking on Nf3" for over and hour. I was not about
to wait and see how many days it would take to play out its lost
position after 12.Nf3 Bxd4.
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Date: 30 Mar 2005 12:57:49
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Subject: Re: Do not play the weak level try the Advance level if you are a good player.
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Sanny wrote:
> The heighest score is 500. Let me see if you can beat this record.
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> People are playing with beginner level and complaining it makes weak
> moves. You try the Advance level and win.
On its highest-strength setting, it still played like a beginner, and
pulled a Bardeleben by quitting in a lost position:
Computer-Kingston, 03/30/2005: 1.g3 Nf6 2.Bg2 d5 3.Bh3?! Bxh3 4.Nxh3
e5 5.Ng5?! c5 6.a3 Nc6 7.b4? cxb4 8.Ra2? d4 9.Rg1? Qd5. At this point,
in a position already lost, it ceased to play -- at least, it did not
respond for nearly an hour before I got tired of waiting. It said it
was "thinking on" 10.Rb2, after which it must lose at least a piece,
viz. 10...h6 11.Nf3 bxa3 etc. (12.Rxb7? a2 etc.) Slightly better is
10.Ra1, but White is still busted.
I also noticed that the board has a dark square at the lower right
corner.
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Date: 30 Mar 2005 09:47:03
From:
Subject: Re: Are you prepared to break the Chess Game Records?
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Sanny wrote:
> A new Chess program has been made which uses better intelligence to
> beat the opponent.
It needs a lot better intelligence than it's showing so far. I did
not record the game, but at its "Normal" level it played (as Black)
something like: 1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d6 3.Nc3 Ng4?! 4.e4 g5? 5.Bxg5 f5?! 6.h3
fxe4 7.Nxe4 Bf5?? 8.Ng3, after which it lost a piece or two, then the
queen. A few moves short of mate, it simply stopped playing.
At its so-called "master" level, the game went thusly: 1.d4 Nc6 2.e4
e6 3.Nf3 b5? 4.Bxb5 Qf6?! 5.Bg5 Qg6 6.Nc3 Nf6 7.0-0 Nxe4 8.Nxe4 Qxe4
9.Re1 Qd5? 10.c4 Qf5 11.d5 Qg4??. At this point when I tried to play
12.dxc6, it would not let me, and instead started a new game!
I have no time for or interest in playing it at 20 minutes per move.
I can get a much better game from Fritz at a much quicker TL.
I hope the "business planning" you offer is significantly better than
your computer's chess skill, which is roughly comparable to an Atari I
played about 25 years ago.
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Date: 29 Mar 2005 23:01:26
From: Sanny
Subject: Do not play the weak level try the Advance level if you are a good player.
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The heighest score is 500. Let me see if you can beat this record.
People are playing with beginner level and complaining it makes weak
moves. You try the Advance level and win.
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> Yeah, it plays 1. a4 after a split-second.
> How can such a prog be taken seriously?
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Date: 30 Mar 2005 23:41:56
From: JA
Subject: Re: Do not play the weak level try the Advance level if you are a
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Sanny wrote:
> The heighest score is 500. Let me see if you can beat this record.
>
> People are playing with beginner level and complaining it makes weak
> moves. You try the Advance level and win.
>
I seem to be at the top of the leader board, but, sadly, that's a
tribute to my patience rather than my chess. I played very quickly, but
the program took hours. Fortunately, there was a good film on..
I don't think that this is a good advert for your skills - chess
programs are routinely very much better than this. Getting the board
the wrong way round is also an embarrassing goof, and suggests that the
author doesn't play much chess.
It's also a bad idea to put your users' email addresses in plain text on
the web page. Spammers will extract the address and bombard them with
junk mail. I expect most people will, for this reason, give false
addresses.
Sorry - it might've been nice a couple of decades ago, but now it looks
amateurish.
--
John Appleyard
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Date: 29 Mar 2005 08:16:54
From: THUDandBLUNDER
Subject: Re: Are you prepared to break the Chess Game Records?
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Adrian MacNair wrote:
> "Sanny" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > A new Chess program has been made which uses better intelligence to
> > beat the opponent.
> >
> > To Play the Game and show your skills visit:
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> It's a very easy program to beat. It plays illogical moves,
especially for a
> computer, and even with 20 minute think times it doesn't change its
> linescore.
Yeah, it plays 1. a4 after a split-second.
How can such a prog be taken seriously?
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Date: 28 Mar 2005 12:30:56
From: Adrian MacNair
Subject: Re: Are you prepared to break the Chess Game Records?
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"Sanny" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> A new Chess program has been made which uses better intelligence to
> beat the opponent.
>
> To Play the Game and show your skills visit:
It's a very easy program to beat. It plays illogical moves, especially for a
computer, and even with 20 minute think times it doesn't change its
linescore.
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