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Date: 12 Apr 2006 22:45:54
From: Ken Lovering
Subject: An Excellent Position to Study Visualization
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1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c6 4. Ngf3 Nd7 5.ed ed 6.Bd3 Ngf6 7.c3 Be7 8Qe2 0-0
9.0-0 Re8 10.Ne5 Bd6 11.f4 c5 12.Qf2 cd 13.cd h6 14.Ndf3 Nf8 15.f5 N8h7
16.Qg3 Nh5 17.Qg4 N7f6 18.Qh3 Qb6 19.Kh1 g6 20.g4 Ne4 21.?
For those interested, setup the position when you are free to study it, and,
without moving the pieces, study the board and come up with what you believe
is White's best move. Both sides have threats and it's a matter of who gets
there first.
Time yourself!
Once you're done, do not post your findings!
Just reply that you have studied the position and have an answer.
I'll give it 5 days and see if there are any responses. If so, I'll then ask
everyone who looked at the position to post:
their findings and the time they took to find the moves.
If you are one of those who can see 7-10 moves ahead, without moving the
pieces, you should be able to find a couple of mating lines for the winning
side or a crushing material advantage depending on which side fails to play
the best move.
It may be that only one side can win, or it may be that either side can win
if the other fails to make the proper move. Or, it may be that only 1 side
can win and the precision of his moves determines how long it takes for him
to win.
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Date: 13 Apr 2006 10:01:38
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Subject: Re: An Excellent Position to Study Visualization
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Ken Lovering wrote:
> 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c6 4. Ngf3 Nd7 5.ed ed 6.Bd3 Ngf6 7.c3 Be7 8Qe2 0-0
> 9.0-0 Re8 10.Ne5 Bd6 11.f4 c5 12.Qf2 cd 13.cd h6 14.Ndf3 Nf8 15.f5 N8h7
> 16.Qg3 Nh5 17.Qg4 N7f6 18.Qh3 Qb6 19.Kh1 g6 20.g4 Ne4 21.?
>
> For those interested, setup the position when you are free to study it, and,
> without moving the pieces, study the board and come up with what you believe
> is White's best move. Both sides have threats and it's a matter of who gets
> there first.
Not really. It seems to be a very one-sided position.
> Time yourself!
> Once you're done, do not post your findings!
> Just reply that you have studied the position and have an answer.
> I'll give it 5 days and see if there are any responses. If so, I'll then ask
> everyone who looked at the position to post:
>
> their findings and the time they took to find the moves.
>
> If you are one of those who can see 7-10 moves ahead, without moving the
> pieces, you should be able to find a couple of mating lines for the winning
> side or a crushing material advantage depending on which side fails to play
> the best move.
>
> It may be that only one side can win, or it may be that either side can win
> if the other fails to make the proper move. Or, it may be that only 1 side
> can win and the precision of his moves determines how long it takes for him
> to win.
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Date: 13 Apr 2006 13:08:39
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: An Excellent Position to Study Visualization
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Ken Lovering <[email protected] > wrote:
> 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c6 4. Ngf3 Nd7 5.ed ed 6.Bd3 Ngf6 7.c3 Be7
> 8Qe2 0-0 9.0-0 Re8 10.Ne5 Bd6 11.f4 c5 12.Qf2 cd 13.cd h6 14.Ndf3
> Nf8 15.f5 N8h7 16.Qg3 Nh5 17.Qg4 N7f6 18.Qh3 Qb6 19.Kh1 g6 20.g4 Ne4
> 21.?
That should be
1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c6 4. Ngf3 Nd7 5.ed ed 6.Bd3 Ngf6 7.c3 Be7 8.Qe2
0-0 9.0-0 Re8 10.Ne5 Bd6 11.f4 c5 12.Qf2 cd 13.cd h6 14.Ndf3 Nf8 15.f5
N8h7 16.Qg3 Nh5 17.Qg4 N7f6 18.Qh3 Qb6 19.Kh1 g6 20.g4 Ne4
I post the correction merely so that people can cut and paste the
game. The final position is
r1b1r1k1/pp3p2/1q1b2pp/3pNP1n/3Pn1P1/3B1N1Q/PP5P/R1B2R1K w - - 0 21
Dave.
--
David Richerby Generic Ghost (TM): it's like a
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ haunting spirit but it's just like
all the others!
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Date: 13 Apr 2006 13:14:13
From: Ken Lovering
Subject: Re: An Excellent Position to Study Visualization
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Thanks David!
I don't know how that notation works.
Ken
"David Richerby" <[email protected] > wrote in message
news:lnt*[email protected]...
> Ken Lovering <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c6 4. Ngf3 Nd7 5.ed ed 6.Bd3 Ngf6 7.c3 Be7
> > 8Qe2 0-0 9.0-0 Re8 10.Ne5 Bd6 11.f4 c5 12.Qf2 cd 13.cd h6 14.Ndf3
> > Nf8 15.f5 N8h7 16.Qg3 Nh5 17.Qg4 N7f6 18.Qh3 Qb6 19.Kh1 g6 20.g4 Ne4
> > 21.?
>
> That should be
>
> 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 c6 4. Ngf3 Nd7 5.ed ed 6.Bd3 Ngf6 7.c3 Be7 8.Qe2
> 0-0 9.0-0 Re8 10.Ne5 Bd6 11.f4 c5 12.Qf2 cd 13.cd h6 14.Ndf3 Nf8 15.f5
> N8h7 16.Qg3 Nh5 17.Qg4 N7f6 18.Qh3 Qb6 19.Kh1 g6 20.g4 Ne4
>
> I post the correction merely so that people can cut and paste the
> game. The final position is
>
> r1b1r1k1/pp3p2/1q1b2pp/3pNP1n/3Pn1P1/3B1N1Q/PP5P/R1B2R1K w - - 0 21
>
>
>
> Dave.
>
> --
> David Richerby Generic Ghost (TM): it's like
a
> www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ haunting spirit but it's just
like
> all the others!
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Date: 14 Apr 2006 10:57:36
From: David Richerby
Subject: Re: An Excellent Position to Study Visualization
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Ken Lovering <[email protected] > wrote:
> I don't know how that notation works.
The only error was that you wrote `8Qe2' instead of `8.Qe2' which
threw off Winboard at least.
Dave.
--
David Richerby Psychotic Confusing Chair (TM): it's
www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~davidr/ like a chair but you can't understand
it and it wants to kill you!
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