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Date: 16 Sep 2005 04:02:34
From: Sam Sloan
Subject: A Small Controversy about Ben Finegold
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On Monday, May 16, 2005 I broadcast on my TV show, Chess Lesson #2. This chess lesson is now posted at http://www.ishipress.com/samchess2.asf This chess lesson discusses a basic trap in the Albin Counter Gambit where Black wins by promoting to a knight with check. This was discussed extensively on rec.games.chess.politics About two months later, Ben Finegold came out with a new chess video entitled "Chess with Ben Finegold: Chess Tactics for Scholastic Players - Vol 1". His video shows EXACTLY THE SAME TRAP. The trap is of course well known to all chess masters. The question is: Did Ben Finegold take my idea, or is it jjust a coincidence that his video shows exactly the same trap as my video? Sam Sloan
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Date: 17 Sep 2005 14:07:53
From: Nick
Subject: Re: A Small Controversy about Ben Finegold
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Skeptic wrote (to Sam Sloan): > Sam Sloan wrote: > > The trap is of course well known to all chess masters. > > Well, then, you answered your own question, didn't you? And that trap's known by, in addition to 'all chess masters', Sam Sloan.
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Date: 16 Sep 2005 21:27:52
From: Skeptic
Subject: Re: A Small Controversy about Ben Finegold
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> The trap is of course well known to all chess masters. Well, then, you answered your own question, didn't you?
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Date: 16 Sep 2005 18:23:21
From: J�rgen R.
Subject: Re: A Small Controversy about Ben Finegold
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:02:34 GMT, [email protected] (Sam Sloan) wrote: >On Monday, May 16, 2005 I broadcast on my TV show, Chess Lesson #2. >This chess lesson is now posted at >http://www.ishipress.com/samchess2.asf > >This chess lesson discusses a basic trap in the Albin Counter Gambit >where Black wins by promoting to a knight with check. This was >discussed extensively on rec.games.chess.politics > >About two months later, Ben Finegold came out with a new chess video >entitled "Chess with Ben Finegold: Chess Tactics for Scholastic >Players - Vol 1". His video shows EXACTLY THE SAME TRAP. > >The trap is of course well known to all chess masters. The question >is: Did Ben Finegold take my idea, or is it jjust a coincidence that >his video shows exactly the same trap as my video? The answer is obvious. Anybody who has seen the 'Sam Sloan Show' will inevitably ask himself what he can do to become more like this great role model of Merkin Youth. Ben Finegold's answer was the simplest and most efficient: Do as the Sloanaboars do; emulate the great master, hoping to be admired by young and old like he is. I recently saw Ben Finegold in NYC and noticed that he no longer combs his hair, doesn't wash his face, leaves his fly open, and dresses in Salvation Army style. He told me that next month he was planning a trip to the far East, where he is intending to visit 3 bordellos per day and propose riage to every whore under the age of 20 that he can find. If he does this for 6 weeks he thinks that he will probably find a bride. If Sloan, the great master, can do it 8 times then, he thinks, he should be able to do it once, given enough time. When he returns he will apply for a slot on Brooklyn Public Access Cable and compete with the great Sam Sloan directly. > >Sam Sloan
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Date: 16 Sep 2005 08:01:24
From: Curly Surmudgeon
Subject: Re: A Small Controversy about Ben Finegold
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 04:02:34 +0000, Sam Sloan wrote: Please stop posting chess to politics. -- Regards, Curly ------------------------------------------------------------------------ http://curlysurmudgeon.com/blog/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: 16 Sep 2005 12:38:56
From: irvin
Subject: Re: A Small Controversy about Ben Finegold
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Since the trap was well known before both your online lesson and his video existed, there's no chance anyone is copying anyone. -- Irvin ------------------------- http://www.pixel69.com "Sam Sloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]... > On Monday, May 16, 2005 I broadcast on my TV show, Chess Lesson #2. > This chess lesson is now posted at > http://www.ishipress.com/samchess2.asf > > This chess lesson discusses a basic trap in the Albin Counter Gambit > where Black wins by promoting to a knight with check. This was > discussed extensively on rec.games.chess.politics > > About two months later, Ben Finegold came out with a new chess video > entitled "Chess with Ben Finegold: Chess Tactics for Scholastic > Players - Vol 1". His video shows EXACTLY THE SAME TRAP. > > The trap is of course well known to all chess masters. The question > is: Did Ben Finegold take my idea, or is it jjust a coincidence that > his video shows exactly the same trap as my video? > > Sam Sloan >
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Date: 16 Sep 2005 16:55:31
From: Taylor
Subject: Re: A Small Controversy about Ben Finegold
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irvin wrote: > Since the trap was well known before both your online lesson and his video > existed, there's no chance anyone is copying anyone. > *Cameron voice*: "Ferris Bueller, you're my hero." --- http://www.superheropornsquad.com/
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Date: 15 Sep 2005 21:38:24
From: Leopold
Subject: Re: A Small Controversy about Ben Finegold
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Oh good God Sam, Are you hallucinating? First off, that trap can be found in many many chess books. I have it in five different books that I own. Second, do you know how long it takes to produce a video? I'm sure Ben was collecting material for his video long before your lessons. Leopold Scottsdale, Az "Sam Sloan" <[email protected] > wrote in message news:[email protected]... > On Monday, May 16, 2005 I broadcast on my TV show, Chess Lesson #2. > This chess lesson is now posted at > http://www.ishipress.com/samchess2.asf > > This chess lesson discusses a basic trap in the Albin Counter Gambit > where Black wins by promoting to a knight with check. This was > discussed extensively on rec.games.chess.politics > > About two months later, Ben Finegold came out with a new chess video > entitled "Chess with Ben Finegold: Chess Tactics for Scholastic > Players - Vol 1". His video shows EXACTLY THE SAME TRAP. > > The trap is of course well known to all chess masters. The question > is: Did Ben Finegold take my idea, or is it jjust a coincidence that > his video shows exactly the same trap as my video? > > Sam Sloan >
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